ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿ ³ ISSUE 012 - BOULDER NEWS FRENZY - ISSUE 012 ³ ³ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄij ³ Released on January 1st, 1998 ³ ³ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄij ³ The publishers of this newsletter take no responsibility for the use of ³ ³ any information printed and do not encourage others to bother the BNF. ³ ³ This is intended to document the events on the BNF only, nothing more. ³ ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ "When ya can't harass the ones you want...harass the ones you can. " -Spessa, 1997 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Welcome to BoulderNews] Our forums are now closed. Because we have had too many instances of break-ins and forum trashing, we regret to announce that we are closing down our forums for the time being. The closure is indefinite and we can offer no estimation as to when, or if, they will come back up. We simply cannot afford to continue pouring time, effort and money into a project a few miscreants are determined to trash by any means necessary. We appreciate your understanding in these matters. If you have any questions or comments, please feel free to contact us. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ So this may very well be the last issue of Boulder News Frenzy and I know that makes my 15-20 readers extrememly unhappy. Okay, maybe I'm underestimating the size of our audience. I'm sure all the old BNF regulars check in from time to time to see what they've been talking about and Jameson's sure to have all the issues archived on her hard drive somewhere. Anyway, here is the collection of posts leading up to the very end of the BNF. Nobody knows exactly what happened to finally make the Daily Camera snap like this but supposedly someone started spamming with a bunch of nazi propoganda so that may have had something to do with it. After you read the posts, skip down to the end of this issue for a few "legal" letters some of us have received and some important URLs pointing to "new and improved" hangouts for dead children stalkers and other miscellaneous crap. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------- RBCP IS A HOMOSEXUAL! Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: drifter E-mail: - Location: - Posted on: Thursday October 16, 1997 It turns out that our friend RBCP is actually a homosexual and the only reason that he married colleen and had a kid is to appeal to his readers of PLA. Colleen is being payed very nicely for this and I think we should make all the PLA fans aware of this fact. I've been emailing this information to the web masters of all the PLA sites. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: It's true E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday October 16, 1997 I was a little PLA kid for a long time. When I learned rbcp killed people's pets I got out, but before that he was always making passes at me. He wanted my body. He makes it a rule not to hit on people under the age of 18. He sent me a lot of naked pictures of himself that Colleen took. I guess he's not really homosexual but bisexual, because he does have sex with colleen. Not very often, but they do. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Uuuuuuuuuh E-mail: Uhhhhhhhhh Location: Uhhhhhhhhhh Posted on: Thursday October 16, 1997 Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Are there like any chicks here? I wanna score -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: B00B E-mail: Location: Posted on: Friday October 17, 1997 i got b00bs -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Huh? E-mail: Location: Posted on: Friday October 17, 1997 Who the heck is the PLA? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: jeff E-mail: Location: Posted on: Friday October 17, 1997 yes!!! he sucked me off and then I came in his mouth it was alright as far as head is concerned -------------------------------------------------------- did we give up on the PLA? Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Extinction Man E-mail: Location: Posted on: Friday October 17, 1997 I've been waiting for someone to post some new PLA info and it hasn't happened yet. Just let me know, are we going to coexist with them or are the plans still in the works? Thank you. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: * E-mail: Location: Posted on: Friday October 17, 1997 No one on this forum gives a shit about the PLA. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Here's something interesting E-mail: Location: Posted on: Friday October 17, 1997 As soon as we realized the PLA were no longer here, and that it was just those women who've always flamed posters, those women stopped. I find that interesting. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: RBCP E-mail: ** Location: ** Posted on: Friday October 17, 1997 use regulars can eat the corn outa' my s--- !!! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: * E-mail: * Location: * Posted on: Friday October 17, 1997 Duh, haven't you figured out there is no PLA. There never was a PLa org. What you think of as a PLA orginazation is a zine. A zine is a web based magazine. This is the INTERNET. The forum you are posting on is not a cohesive club. Do you know anyone here? Please, check your brain cells. you seem to be running on empty. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Extinction Man E-mail: Location: Posted on: Friday October 17, 1997 Some of the people I talked with and posted with about a week ago were very interested in getting these PLA guys information. I just wanted to know if that was still the plan or not. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: ReadyMix E-mail: Location: Posted on: Friday October 17, 1997 Heaven is just a click away. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: TO Ex"STINK"tion WOman E-mail: * Location: * Posted on: Friday October 17, 1997 use are a friggen MORON !!!! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Extinction Man E-mail: Location: Posted on: Friday October 17, 1997 I am not a moron, just an idiot -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: What is heaven? E-mail: Location: Posted on: Friday October 17, 1997 What the hell is this heaven forum crap? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: BABIES E-mail: Location: Posted on: Friday October 17, 1997 WAAAAAAAAA -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: STOP E-mail: Location: Posted on: Friday October 17, 1997 THE NONSENSE!!!!!!!!!!! The only PLA around this forum, is a dipstick that posts in here nearly everyday. I know who this weirdo is, and when she started her crap. GERBIL GERBIL GERBIL =READER READER READER = R.T. R.T. R.T.R.T. If you people can't figure this out, then you sure as H--- are not cybersleuths. Why are you continuing to let this forum be used as a garbage can? This use to be a well respected forum, but not anymore. The decent, well thought out posters are moving on, and before you know it, you'll be left without anyone but the couple of ding a lings that rant and rave all day long. You people are gradually becoming ostracized, and you're too dumb to realize it. Grow up. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: rbcp E-mail: bac@bright.net Location: Ohio Posted on: Friday October 17, 1997 Hey, Mister Extintion Man, you can have my info. My name is Brad Carter and I live at 1013 Kingswood Court, Celina, Ohio, 45822. My phone number is 419-586-9536. I've been waiting and waiting for something really awful to happen to me all these months and not one single attempt has been made. Not even a lousey 4am hangup call. I've been waiting for the BNF regulars to shut off my internet account, shut down phonelosers.org and have the police and Celina mayor come to my house but they just can't seem to pull any of this off. Maybe you think you can. Alex -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: pee girl E-mail: Location: Posted on: Friday October 17, 1997 I have been waiting for some more fools to stand under my window so I can dump my piss pot on them please some big bad cop make my day -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Paranoia E-mail: Location: Posted on: Friday October 17, 1997 Those poor PLA. They aren't getting any credit for cracking the secret code into HEAVEN. Windsor, Lori and someone else is getting all the credit. And all the trouble they went to. They even posted it all over their web board, so proud of their accomplishments. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: PLA is alive and well here! E-mail: SKYDOG needs to learn security techniques! Location: Anywhere and everywhere Posted on: Friday October 17, 1997 All of the postings on the PLA website are old! Out of a very few days in August. Somebody let (voted) in a PLA mole. Not too smart. Does Samantha Stack ring a bell here? Maybe she offered her broken down bod to Skydog for some cybersex. Pathetic? You Bet! ROTFLMAO! and then some. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Spessa E-mail: Location: Posted on: Saturday October 18, 1997 Tannest turned on us? How could she? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: YOU CAN GET RBCP IN JAIL E-mail: JADFASDF Location: LKAJFLSDJKFKLDJA Posted on: Saturday October 18, 1997 HEY I BET THE COPS IN W00D RIVER ILLINOIZ WOULD LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT THAT BRCP [I don't know if this was mentioned before in a previous issue, but in 1993 or so, RBCP looted a 7-Eleven store, WAS CAUGHT and went to jail for it which is explained on his page. For some reason every BNFer in the world seems to think that the Wood River, Illinois police are going to drive over to Ohio and arrest him for a crime he's already been in jail for. ] -------------------------------------------------------- Wood River Police are on their way... Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: shift E-mail: . Location: . Posted on: Saturday October 18, 1997 I just had a really long discussion with several Wood River Illinois police who seemed to be very interested in our friend RBCP. They assured me that they would be moving in on him very soon and even asked for the URL describing his crimes. Your days are numbered, RBCP. Have a good one. :) -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: What are you talking about? E-mail: Location: Posted on: Saturday October 18, 1997 the URL describing his crimes? Are you joking? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: * E-mail: * Location: * Posted on: Saturday October 18, 1997 Could you take your personal vendettas somewhere else, please? We are not interested. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: ziggy E-mail: Location: Posted on: Saturday October 18, 1997 For Gods sake don't get things started up again. We aren't bothering them and they have apparently called a truce with us. I admire them for that so shut up! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Haberdasher E-mail: Location: Posted on: Saturday October 18, 1997 To Shift-If your goal originally was to help stop the destruction of the forum, it worked and for that we are truly grateful. Thankyou. I for one think that is now time to stop. It has become apparent to one and all that the current problems we experience are from within the forum. I fear that when you persist in the cyber-war, you invite all the trouble all over again, thereby defeating your purpose. -------------------------------------------------------- PLA COME BACK!!! Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Old Time BNFer E-mail: Location: Posted on: Saturday October 18, 1997 Compared to the drivel we have now read coming from Heaven, we have decided we would prefer you to return and exchange banter with us. Let's make a pact, we won't send Detective X after you at your schools and work places and you don't spam our good threads off. Denver has removed her offensive, altered pictures of Tannest and has agreed to cease making web pages of Spessa and Coleen also. I think we can work together, BNF and PLA. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Okay E-mail: Location: Posted on: Saturday October 18, 1997 That's a workable deal! I think we can coexist nicely...But first, don't you think you have an item of business to take care of? We don't want the angels AND PLA. Just the PLA. Whew! So glad that's cleared up. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: The MF E-mail: .fsfg.s Location: lkkl Posted on: Saturday October 18, 1997 I think it's great now that the forum regulars are attacking other forum regulars. Well, if not the PLA, how about the two other groups wanting to take part? I heard Motherfuckers Incorporate and the Insane Forum Posse are bidding. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Are We Voting? E-mail: Location: Posted on: Saturday October 18, 1997 If so, I say YES! to the PLA. I love it when they flame Windsor and all the others. Their posts are always intelligent, well researched and enlightening. Let's hear more about dead gerbils! Let's see whole pages filled with "Flower Encouraged Opinion Forum Trashing". Raise my conciousness! Who cares about JonBenet? She's dead. [And they are all changed for the better... But this wasn't good, somebody decided. So suddenly another auto-posting page was setup somewhere and a half-million posts appeared on the BNF which did not settle well with the regulars. ] ------------------------------------------------------------ Stopping this Nonsense Return to the Ramsey forum index page ------------------------------------------------------------ Posted by: Inquirer E-mail: --- Location: --- Posted on: Monday October 20, 1997 I know various posters here know how to detect the site that generates these threads. Is it possible to post this information so anyone who wants can help in detecting and running down the site,making the phone calls to the ISP, etc. ? If someone can post this, is it possible to keep the information alive all day so enough posters can see it? I know, for example, I will not be able to return to this site until later this afternoon. [A few simple lines of perl script would be able to tell these clowns exactly where any post actually came from and we even personally called up BNF's technical girl to explain to her how to detect us but it apparently never happened. ] ------------------------------------------------------------ Posted by: Another Helper E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday October 20, 1997 OK, I'd like to help too but do you think we should ask the posters who know to tell us via hotmail accounts? Might not be too good of an idea to post "techniques" on this board. ------------------------------------------------------------ Posted by: yo mama E-mail: jameson@abts.net Location: Posted on: Monday October 20, 1997 nobody can get kicked off an isp for making threads you fuckheads...get a clue ------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Answer E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday October 20, 1997 Finding these websites is not a clear-cut procedure. It is hit and miss. It's hard to describe how to do it. ------------------------------------------------------------ Posted by: Haberdasher E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday October 20, 1997 Here's an off the wall concept for you. See what you think. In order to better monitor/control info and theories regarding JonBenet's murder, and to distract attention to it, someone must have free reign not possible on a public forum. A secret and private forum must be established for the posters to have a place for "safe" discourse away from the spamming and chaos. If control is to be there, the place/site must be closed/ secret and those in attendance must accept and follow guidelines. And it must appear an honor to be *accepted* to the inner sanctum so that good people (lambs) willingly and proudly go there. In the process of herding the sheep, the destroyers (sheppards) will not reveal the plan or even its concept for the sheep would not follow. And for it to work, the sheep must *willingly* follow. So, the sheppards set out to destroy, flame, spam and in many ways make it unpleasant for the posters here. One by one, the sheep (posters) here and on other boards leave the flock until the new flock (forum) is formed with rules and guidelines gradually imposed, a little at a time while the lambs tell their secrets and become bonded to the gatekeepers who, coincidentally happen to be the destroyers, and the other lambs. Trust must be established in order to control. By the time anyone knows what happened it is too late to leave for each lamb is personally vested one way or another having forged friendships and trust. This weekend we learned much. Read between the lines and look to the leadership (sheppards). Some of the good people who posted here were compromised for they let their egos get in the way of logic. Sadly, fearing ostracization from the Boulder flock, they may turn to the destroyers for comfort and acceptance and reorganization, as was intended. ------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Another View E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday October 20, 1997 Following up on Answer's response. There are a few ways to TRY and find the offending web pages: 1) If any URL is supplied by the offenders, check it out, but do it carefully. Maybe follow any links it has. Again, do it carefully. Look for anything that seems clickable due to color or that your mouse changes for, but for whom the URL does NOT appear at the bottom. If the URL appears then it is a hyperlink and clicking is not dangerous (this assumes you have javascript disabled). 2) Check out a few of the PLA resources like their web BBS since the last attack page's address was posted there. 3) Go to the two most utilized free web page providers (geocities and tripod) and look around a little there. Use their search engines to look for things, but remember that they only update the database occasionally so anything new won't show up. 4) Use general search engines like Infoseek or AltaVista to look for the pages, or related sites like PLA/LogicBox/... small chance, but after 1-3 is exhasted, what else is left. As you can see, you can look, and maybe you will find something, but maybe you won't, so good luck. -------------------------------------------------------- RBCP is advertising this site!! Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: mind E-mail: -- Location: -- Posted on: Monday October 20, 1997 Look on http://www.phonelosers.org/current.htm and you will see a reference to this site and a hotlink to it! What can we do to get them in trouble?? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: *.* E-mail: &@$$$$.com Location: () Posted on: Monday October 20, 1997 If you think thats bad look at this! http://vulgar.net/~british/frenzy/ramsey2.gif Will it ever end? Who ever is doing this is really sick. [This URL to a GIF is an "ad banner" advertising this little magazine. It reads "Boulder News Frenzy" and "Forum Terror 1997" and has a picture of JonBenet only her face has been photo- shopped so it looks like she's wearing white face paint, sort of like the guy in "The Crow" did after he died. ] -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Never mind E-mail: Location: To mind Posted on: Monday October 20, 1997 What's your problem? It's just a joke. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: tyr0ne E-mail: that Location: frenzy Posted on: Monday October 20, 1997 site is disgusting. Please don't go there, it has altered pictures of poor little JBR. I have a feeling that site won't last long. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: George Washington E-mail: ... Location: United States of America Posted on: Monday October 20, 1997 I'm rolling over in my grave!!! What ever happened to free speech? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Trailtracker E-mail: not for your eyes Location: Nearby Posted on: Monday October 20, 1997 http://vulgar.net/~british/ramsey2.gif traces to Dan Mason@visi.com His website is http://www.visi.com/~danmason It looks like Danny Boy is interested in scanners and intercepting cordless telephone calls. Sounds like a familiar activity of the thread trashers here, doesn't it? Oh, you might want to send an e-mail to Danny's postmaster @visi.com if the spirit so moves you. More later? Stay "tuned." -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: . E-mail: . Location: . Posted on: Monday October 20, 1997 This is the entire text of the link that "mind" is so alarmed about on the phonelosers.org site. The stupid posters here are the only people who write about them, and someone here is eager to stir shit up. Here it is: October 20th, 1997: Fixed yet even more broken links around the site. Added the above KEEE.COM ad since it's my current favorite net radio station. Go check it out. Also, for all the latest new information concerning my personal life and the PLA in general, go read the Boulder News Forum posts. Great source of current info. This guy is really laughing at the stupidity exibited here. I don't blame him. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Trailtracker might E-mail: be a net Location: STALKER Posted on: Monday October 20, 1997 Trailtracker, I did go to the http://www.visi.com/~danmason/ It had 6 links and I checked them too. 1. links to a church at: http://www.church.com/ 2. is his email address 3. is his name in a bunch of fonts. 4. pickup lines-(some pretty cute) 5. Linux stuff, games software a d information. 6. scanner information. tells us what most already knew. That cordless and cellular phones are insecure. Does not suggest any criminal activity whatsoever. I do believe "internet stalking" might be a crime. We here are sick of you and your clones deliberately doing all this damage to what was a good forum. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Another View E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday October 20, 1997 All of the information posted regarding that website is in the public domain. Anyone can find it. To call it "stalking" discloses a high level of paranoia on someone's part. Not surprising, given all of the back-stabbing going on here. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: rbcp E-mail: bac@bright.net Location: oHIo Posted on: Monday October 20, 1997 So you're going to email visi.com and have his account removed becuase he's a scanner buff. (hysterical laughter) Just like you were going to have my bright.net account shut off because the link to my computer contained real audio prank call archives. Sure. As for my link to BNF under the Current Events page - you people have been obsessed over me and the PLA for months now. I think it's okay for me to put a link here saying, "Hey look at this page, all they talk about is me." -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: to rbcb E-mail: . Location: . Posted on: Monday October 20, 1997 You make good sense. Somebody here has a thing about you and you are getting national publicity .*g* I have a scanner. Is that illegal? I have no idea who or why someone is trying to get pages taken off the internet. They must have no power in real life and agravating forums is the best they can do. Sad. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: I dont belive this E-mail: THE guy from visi.com Location: yay! Posted on: Monday October 20, 1997 I made that picture. You people seem to think you're the underdogs of the net. So what I made that picture? I was bored off my ass. You have no right and should go back to twiddling your thumbs. There is such thing as free speech in this world. Don't you realize this? I have the right to say whatever I want. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Alien E-mail: Planet Mars Location: Universe Posted on: Monday October 20, 1997 OK, you have a right to say whatever you want. Just one question, though, what's with all the acronyms? Does RBCP stand for "Robocop"?? ha, ha, ha. Ha ha. Heh heh. Oh well, I thought it was funny. -------------------------------------------------------- Hey, have you people heard of a thing called free Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: The guy who did that banner E-mail: it's called America Location: First amendment rights Posted on: Monday October 20, 1997 Go find something better to do than to try to whine to my administrator. I dont like rap music just as much as you dont like my banner, but you know what? I don't try to stop rap music, like you fucking try to stop my banner/web page. Its anyones right to say what they want, no matter how much it offends you. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: ____________ E-mail: Location: ____________ Posted on: Monday October 20, 1997 Very intriguing post! Were is your banner? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Another View E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday October 20, 1997 The people who scream and whine and cry about their First Amendment rights have good cause. They are hiding behind the First Amendment and the nine others to perpetrate crimes. Nobody here should think differently. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: - E-mail: - Location: - Posted on: Monday October 20, 1997 Damn, I wish my country had first amendment -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: uhhh E-mail: banner maker Location: ... Posted on: Tuesday October 21, 1997 I'm not trying to perpetuate a crime. its free speech, pal. Drawing a picture is not a crime. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: - E-mail: - Location: - Posted on: Tuesday October 21, 1997 banners are cool -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Yes, banners are "kewl" E-mail: hipper@thanthou.com Location: NOYBW Posted on: Tuesday October 21, 1997 In Paul Krassner's autobiography ("Confessions of a Raving, Unconfined Nut"), he relates a story about how his magazine ("The Realist") used to sell a banner in the the '60s that read "Fuck Communism." A college student at a midwestern college held up the banner for a class photo. At first the college officials airbrushed out the word Fuck. Uh oh. Then they airbrushed out the word Communism as well, so that particular yearbook shows a guy holding up a blank banner. My message to thread starter: Fuck your Ammendment rights. You and the Ramseys have a lot more in common than you spoiled rotten whiners care to admit. No wonder you like creating havoc here; the scum always rises to the top. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Another View E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday October 21, 1997 This is the real Another View. The one above is borrowing my hat. The people who take copyrighted images from here (or USA Today, ...), modify them, then post them on their own website are breaking the copyright laws. It isn't a question of Free Speach, it is a question of "fair use" (as defined in the copyright laws). To place something on a web site has been declared by the courts to be publishing, so placing other people's copyright material on a web site is a definite no-no. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: jeff E-mail: Location: boulder Posted on: Tuesday October 21, 1997 my cock is huge sometimes!! catch me at a good moment and I will rock your hot box of wet flowing salt drops into the night [Great comeback, Jeff. You made me shoot a Lemonhead out of my nose. ] -------------------------------------------------------- Please talk about PLA again Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: rbcp E-mail: bac@bright.net Location: oHIo Posted on: Wednesday October 22, 1997 Listen, it's been like two days now and none of you have said anything about PLA or even made any good threads about me. I'm starting to feel as if I'm not important around here or that you people don't like me or something. Please start gossiping about me again, I miss it. Or post all our phone numbers again and tell us we're going to jail. Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease?!? I'm bored over here. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: british E-mail: )()()()() Location: ()()()()()()(( Posted on: Wednesday October 22, 1997 I think they are more interested in talking about such sick subject as stained panties(urine and or blood) and duct taping little girls up. SICKOS -------------------------------------------------------- Tracking an IP Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Experienced E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday October 26, 1997 If you receive email from a Hotmail addressee. Look at the originating IP address at the top. Look up the DNS information on that number. To do this go to www.internic.com or something like that. Then you will have the name and location information for that person's ISP. Call them which the time of the mail and say you were winnuked on IRC by that IP address at that time. They are required by law to give you the account holder's name. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: ROFLMAO E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday October 26, 1997 The number can be resolved to an ISP. However, the rest of the above post is pure fiction. ISPs do NOT have time to chase winnukes which are just harmless little floods. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Not True E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday October 26, 1997 The ISP can a log of all connects to each IP address. They simply need the time and IP address and they match that to the unique identifying password each customer has. Most ISPs have the log program accesible to their customers on their company web pages for usage tracking. Call your ISP and ask them. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Just checkout E-mail: Hotmail,com Location: and their links to fraud Posted on: Sunday October 26, 1997 to the 1st expert, this will give you a better idea. Some can be done, time consuming for ISP's unless it's fraud and abuse or stalking. Big stories on that stuff, on the hotmail.com site. Enjoy. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: hay, what is E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday October 26, 1997 winnuked, what does it do? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To: Not True E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday October 26, 1997 If your'e lucky! Most ISP's cannot find the time to reply to a phone call, e-mail -- legit. Don't hold your breath waiting, unless it's a lawsuit. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Patchfinder E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday October 26, 1997 The malicious "WINNUKE" hacker program exploits a security bug found in MS-Windows '95. Go to the microsoft website and download the patch and you won't get winnuked. Thank You Very Much for your attention to this solution. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Temporary lampshade E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday October 26, 1997 Can Web TV be winnuked and do all the other things the above posters suggest? If so, how? Please answer what winnuked is. I knew but I forgot. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Dianne E. E-mail: diannee@pacbell.net Location: 5:30PM pdt Posted on: Sunday October 26, 1997 Hotmail is NOT anonymous it is only FREE. http://www.hotmail.com/nospam.html -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: ?? E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday October 26, 1997 ?? What the hell are so many of you afraid of here? If someone finds out who you are, so what. What are you hinding behind? What deep dark secrets are amongst us? Ye gads. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: scared now E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday October 26, 1997 can someone winuke me if i'm just going out to my front porch? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Yeah, but E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday October 26, 1997 Just wear a collander on your head, and wrap your wrists with heavy duty aluminum foil. Note: Regular tin foil won't work. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: and E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday October 26, 1997 what if I'm at the movies? Sony. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Dianne E. E-mail: diannee@pacbell.net Location: 8:00PM pdt Posted on: Sunday October 26, 1997 ??, ROFL, every so often the ISP paranoia runs rampant here and I must admit the response from people sometimes makes me wonder if some of the posters are criminals they get so worried. Other than a few cases where the people AGREED to meet (and had an unfortunate ending), has anyone heard of someone being tracked down (and killed or stalked) due to the ISP???? ROFL -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Just E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday October 26, 1997 Buckle up the chin strap on the collander. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Folks E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday October 26, 1997 WinNuke is a program that uses an odd port number to do something like a 'ping' so that it floods or overwhelms the nework safe guards, and causes your PC to lock up, or crash Windows '95. The worst it could do was lose some of the purple prose you were typing to your Sig. Other if you hadn't saved your editor. As I'm sure some of the above is a bit in error, soon we'll have an expert jump on and tell us, for the first rule of the Net is : to get the right answer, post one that's close, and the nearest dweeb (like me) will tell you. (grin) YMMV -------------------------------------------------------- JESUS FUCKING CHRIST Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: rbcp E-mail: bac@bright.net Location: oHIo Posted on: Monday October 27, 1997 sorry, i just felt like saying that. it's sunday and that's my way of praising the god damned lord. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Betsy E-mail: To rbcp Location: Posted on: Monday October 27, 1997 You really have to stop this. Whatever your reason, it is not right. Please stop this as of tonight. Now, are you the one who wrote that really long post this past summer about how you and your friend, I think his name was Chris, went across country after you left home? Even though you did some illegal things, as I remember it, you did not sound like a bad person, and you had a terrific writing flair. I remember thinking that you were really funny. Instead of disrupting things like this, if you are for real, and you are someone, because someone writes your posts, why not try for a career in writing humorous stuff? You seem to have some talent there, and I for one would like to encourage you, because whyever you are doing this blasphemous thing, it is just not right. Why not make your next appearance on this forum by either writing something funny, NOT AT SOMEONE'S EXPENSE, or saying what your own opinion about this case is. Also, I just heard a song on the radio by Michael Jackson and it's an old song that start's out "Say, say, say...." Do you know what the name of that song is---I really like it. Is it "Thriller"? I think it is from that CD. Now Robert, be a good boy, and we will all like you. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: huh E-mail: oh Location: boy Posted on: Monday October 27, 1997 now were on the profound thinkers thread -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Betsy E-mail: To huh Location: Posted on: Monday October 27, 1997 If this were a numbered thread, I could see your point, but why do you have to control every thread? Have you ever tried to get Robert or Brad to stop this stuff? What's wrong with trying? Now, what is the name of that song, if you know? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: rbcp E-mail: bac@bright.net Location: oHIo Posted on: Monday October 27, 1997 Hey, I can say Jesus Fucking Christ if I want to, it's a free country and I called up the Boulder News web lady and she said it was an open forum and that I could say whatever I wanted to. I'm sorry if that offends you and if you don't like seeing that type of stuff, then don't come to this forum. I really don't like seeing people like you obsess over a poor dead girl but I'm not going to bitch you out about it. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Betsy E-mail: To Rbcp Location: Posted on: Monday October 27, 1997 You could say anything you want, but why so it? What about saying Jesus H. Christ instead? What about going on some other forum where everyone curses? Or since you seem to like this forum, contributing? As for your point about people obsessing about a little girl who has died, you do have an interesting point there, but maybe at some point we will all find out why various people stuck with this forum. How about a compromise? You put your name on a thread title, but no curse words or blasphemy, and inside the thread you say whatever you feel like, and people cam stop by to say hi and to thank you for not messing up the titles anymore. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: rbcp E-mail: to betsy Location: oHIo Posted on: Monday October 27, 1997 okay, it's a deal. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Betsy E-mail: To rbcp Location: Posted on: Monday October 27, 1997 That's very sweet of you, Brad (you prefer that to Robert, right?) I had a feeling you were a good kid when I read that funny thing you had written. I hope you are not just teasing like in "Catcher in the Rye" when his brother has him pinned down on the floor.... If you stick to the deal, that will be very nice, and I would like to thank you in advance, and encourage you not to go back on your word. If you do write some funny things, do it under your own name, okay? So we can all keep an eye on you. -------------------------------------------------------- WASH YOUR MOUTH WITH SOAP FOR POSTING THE BLASPHEM Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: dreamer E-mail: Location: ohio Posted on: Tuesday October 28, 1997 It is time to stop posting vile words along with the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. I truly believe that your mother taught you better than this. Try to live up to your mother's expectations. God bless, JonBenet, innocent child victim of unspeakable evil. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: john P Lewis E-mail: Location: Boulder city limits Posted on: Tuesday October 28, 1997 they are bad little brats that need to be spanked and I am just the dirty ole man to do it form a line -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: rbcp E-mail: bac@bright.net Location: oHIo Posted on: Tuesday October 28, 1997 Hey, don't try to tell me I'm a bad person. I go to fucking church all the time and I worship the goddamned lord all to hell and back. He's my goddamned savior so piss off. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: ME NOT BAD TWO E-mail: Location: ok dookie Posted on: Tuesday October 28, 1997 I GO SKATE OUT FRONT OF THIS COOL ASS CHURCH AND ALSO WHEN I JACK MY HUGE JUNK I THINK ABOUT STICKING IT IN THE VIRGIN MARY she is so hot looking with that veil thing when is she gonna come back down here I am here for her much love -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: ziggy E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday October 28, 1997 Dreamer you can't save these people because they do not want to be loved or appreciated. It truly breaks my heart to see good people like you forced to reach out and defend our saviour. God bless you Dreamer and hope that one day these satan followers will see the real light and the truth that satan does not want them to see. They do not understand that their life is not their own and they are being tricked and fooled and blinded by evil. Controled beyond anything imagineable. I pray they will break free. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: dreamer E-mail: Location: ohio Posted on: Tuesday October 28, 1997 Christ was already crucified, so you lose. Nothing that you do can hurt him anymore than was done to him on the cross. For your own mental health think about what you are doing. May God bless you, too. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Have mercy E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday October 28, 1997 Maybe these spammers had parents like the Ramseys. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: dreamer E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday October 28, 1997 Thank you, ziggy. Gone for the nite. My candles are lit for JonBenet. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: zigy E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday October 28, 1997 Good nite Dreamer. And have a greater day tomorrow. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Please tell us (me) E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday October 28, 1997 NOW THEY would like to take hold of RCBP or Jeff, knock the holy shit out of those moronic evil idiots. For sure they would, and not only by internet. Failing that, the DEVIL will have his due, from them. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: hey guess what? E-mail: .. Location: .. Posted on: Tuesday October 28, 1997 You people act like JonBenet was the only person killed on this planet next to Jesus Christ. Why dont you hold a candellight vigil for Vito the drug dealer who got shot by another drug dealer in LA last week? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: LA LAW E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday October 28, 1997 Here's to the drug dealers! May they all take each other "out" and spare us the trouble and expense. -------------------------------------------------------- Hope you are happy Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: doen't matter E-mail: hail hail Location: the two idiots are still here Posted on: Wednesday October 29, 1997 You have throughly trashed this forum -- single handedly -- (guess you are busy with your other hand) -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: ziggy E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday October 29, 1997 yeah I'm pissing myself AND jacking off -------------------------------------------------------- SHUT DOWN THE FORUM APOLOGY Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Aunt M E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 Oh my! Whatever was I thinking of. Please excuse my trespass yesterday. How could I ever have thought of infringing on someone elses rights...even a pigs. I think I must have been exhausted from wading through all the garbage. And I thank you all for your understanding and your patience with an old lady. One more thing; a girl has to do what a girl has to do and I'm certainly far from perfect. So if you will permit me one liberty.....to all you little people who continue to frustrate and anger me.."FUCK YOU!" There, I feel much better now. Thank you. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Watching you E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 Aunt M, if you truly are an old lady, then I love ya. You were not wrong in your moral beliefs - we all feel that way - but some of us would rather NOT switch than fight. Don't take offense. But, go ahead and vent, you're entitled. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: :) :) :) E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 Is Shohani an aunt now? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Hey! E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 Pigs got rights too, you know. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: to: AM E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 Why don't you go trash someone else's forum? You obviously don't like this one, so why are you still here threading and posting away??? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Aunt M E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 Sorry Dear, I didn't mean to offend you, but I'm as entitled to "thread" as you are to "needle", don't you think? Thank you. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: to Aunt Mel E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 take your ugly ass back to joshua -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Toto E-mail: To Auntie M Location: Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 I don't think this forum should be 'shut down', I think some of the posters should be 'shut out'. This is the JonBenet Forum, and most of these threads have nothing to do with the JonBenet case. So what if it's slow right now? If we can't discuss what this forum was designed to discuss, then why dicuss anything? There is an Opinion Forum for off the wall discussion groups, why use this particular forum to flame, swear, be vulgar, make disgusting comments, or just have idle discussions? I think this is a degradation of what this forum was intended for, and an insult to the memory of JonBenet. So, Auntie M_I think you have a point, and a good one. :) -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: otot E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 Only an insane person could talk about JBR everyday for over 300 days. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Wang Fu E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 I am looking for little doggies with no home. Dogbert? Toto? Will you come with me please? I want to give you some leftover moo goo gai pan. Please come into my kitchen. Boring little doggies with no life and no humor. You will like it in my kitchen. Look, here is the wok filled with hot oil.... -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Auntie M E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 I have been appointed moderator of this forum. From now on all posts are to be about approved subjects only. Here is the list: 1. Why wasn't JBR seen riding her bike on Christmas? 2. Is the term "garrotte" applied properly to the murder weapon in this case or should another term be used? 3. What kind of latch is one the door to the basement room? 4. Exactly how much snow was on the ground in Denver on Dec 25/26? 5. Who said they saw JAR entering the RAMS home on Dec 25th? 6. How many little girls has Santa raped and murdered in the past? 7. How do you spell "garrotte" anyway? 8. At what time of the morning on the 26th did the Furneys arrive? 9. What pieces of Boulder real estate are co-owned by Bynum/Haddon/Hunter? 10. Why did Jehovah create trees and grass before he created the Sun, Moon and stars? -------------------------------------------------------- okay, we'll leave you alone Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: rbcp E-mail: bac@bright.net Location: oHIo Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 We've taken a vote and decided to leave this forum completely alone on one condition: Each of you must apologize in THIS thread using your real alias and the apology must be sincere. The apology of course, is for threatening to ruin the lives of Tannest, Logic and RBCP and then not doing it. Also 31373 must state that she indeed does like to suck nigger balls. Thank you for you time. [Nobody knows who actually posted this message and how many of the following responses are really sincere. It's funny, though. ] -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: dogbert E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 My real name is Beavis S. Fruitsaddle. I am sorry. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: 31373 (SheRa) E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 I love to suck niggers' balls. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: betsy E-mail: to rbcp Location: -- Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 I am so sorry I wronged the PLA. This will never happen again and I hope you guys can forgive me. I hate to cave in like this but I really just want the forum back to the way it used to be. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Poster gal E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 I was wrong. You guys are cool. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Ruthie E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 I see a group of nice boys and girls who mean no harm. I'm very sorry. I really didn't see clearly until now. And Colleen is looking great. Hugs to Emily. Is there a green jug at your house? Or a banner of some kind? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Questioner E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 I did some research, and it turns out the PLA is a great group of guys. They are involved in a lot of charity work. Hey - sorry dudz! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Grumpy E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 My real name is Mary Ellen Shmerconish. I'm a lesbian, and for a long time I was real jealous of the way you guys talked to my little night shift flock of gals. But now I see I was wrong. Sorry. No more bragging about my girlfriend (Mickey) No more talk about sex. and I will never lose my temper again. I will share my little birdies with you. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Save Snowball E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 from the evil one. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: OJ E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 I killed ron and Nicole. I'm sorry. I love you guys. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: ziggy E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 OK! I'm sorry to. God that hurt! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: GSH E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 Sorry guys. I'm making chai all around. I was so wrong about you. By the way, anybody know what a bezor is? This is my kids latest homework. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Wan Fu Hu E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 I so sorry..You guys is tha stuff and really I wans you to stay. Okey Dokey? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: China E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 I'm so dumb not to realize how great you've been. I'm so sorry! Can we call you Arbie (rb get it?) Don't flame me! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Houston E-mail: 5:20pm cdt Location: Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 Hi Guys. My real name is Alan Sheppard and to show my appreciation, I have arranged for some buddies of mine to take you for a ride. There's no room on the inside of their vehicle, but they say you can ride outside on the tip. That way, you can see where you are going. It will be so much fun. Bring some strong rope, though, and some warm clothes. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Mrs Brady E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 I'm sorry. I really cut you PLA folks out, and now I realize it. I'd like to include some links to your zines and stuff on my website! Can't wait to get started. Carol -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: jameson ò¿ó E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 OK. I admit it. I only come over here with my Sick Puppy garbage because that's what Haddon & Co. have paid me to do. Truthfully, though, even I am sick of SickPuppy, but I do love to stir things up. You guys are great, and I'm sorry if I stole some of your flames. A guy's gotta make a living, though. How else could I afford to take my children in for their weekly vaginal exams? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Dianne E. E-mail: diannee@pacbell.net Location: 3:50PM pdt Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 I apologize if ignoring you has offended you in any way. I was in a lot of pain from Feb/March when the PLA posted some very good and sometimes funny posts when they were disguised as me, I thought you really really liked me, as you said I was a member, guess when you found out my age, the deal feel through, so I have been sulking ever since. Telephone trucks have never looked the same since I found you wonderful people. I just wish I was young enough to crawl into dumpsters and hijack trucks, guess my jealousy got in my way, sorry. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To rbcp E-mail: Location: you wouldn't know Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 eat shit and die! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: more E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 1. Sometimes people might say things are one way or they might say they are different when you really think about it. So, when I look at all the different aspects of this, if you consider how it is, you might want to say that rbcp and all the pla are right in the long run, but you do have to look at it that way. 2. If I think about how they could be right, then one thing that could certainly come to mind would be that it would be possible for a person to say they were sorry for all this and and that. This is not easy for anyone, but if it is what you have to do because you were really wrong in the first place, then you shuld do it. 3. Now that we all see this, we have to consider what to do next, maybe one thing, maybe another. I do think they are great, the pla, and we should support them in whatever they do because that's the kind of great people they are. I know they never meant any harm -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Raj Ramakrishna E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 I am thinking I was very very angry with you for making fun of my mother's dot. but now I know you are all good fellows. I am sorry if I have angered you in any way. My mother is wanting me to post on J7 from now on. She is saying you are not a good influence on this young boy. I am telling her "No!" I must learn American ways. I must learn about the otter popping and other things. I am sorry for my mother's ignorance. Now I must go help Uncle Chandra unload the new hot dog machine, which turns the hot dogs over and over again. This poor Indian boy says good night to his new friends at the PLA. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To RBCP E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 Would you please post the URL for your revenge file? I tried to tell someone about it but they wouldn't believe it. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To Raj E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 ROFLMAO!!! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Apologize???????? E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 You must be out of your mind, you silly little nerd! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Pats E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 Raj, I love you LOL -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Joshua-7 Gang E-mail: To rbcp Location: Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 Just wanted to say that we are all sorry we came over here and spammed and trolled. We didn't WANT to compete with you guys. It's just that you alone have not been awful enough to drive all the good posters over to us. Also, it gets so boring and frustrating over there, always having to be so polite. BARF! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: T-Man E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 Real Name: Patrick J. Callahan I will apologize only if you promise to lay off my good buds Jay(love ya, honey) and Fra (great legs, baby!) And don't flame me every time I mention Willy's willie or Hillary's hips. (Hey, Paula, nice hair.) Back to my lunch. Later.... -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Snowball E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 I was wrong! So wrong! All this time, those things you said, I thought when you said "eat p#$$y" you meant ME! I thought you were going to sell me to Mr Ho's restaurant. Yikes!!!! What a relief. Now I know you mean something perfectly harmless. I'm sorry. That's different. Never mind. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Jerralyn E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 I'm really sorry I forced all of you to look at my hideous neck on TV. This wasn't fair. I will see a plastic surgeon in the morning. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Fartface come back, or go or E-mail: whatever. Location: Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 Arbie, I am so sorry I joined this forum, Yours is better, Tannest is great, or grate, whatever. Colleen is cool, or a fool or whatever. Let me in your groupie or whatever. Please or sorry or whatever. from me to yours fartface, or whatever. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Sorry but E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 I can't apologize Mr. rbcp. Have you received the foot fungus video yet? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: White Owl E-mail: Location: Mio, Michigan Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 I'll apologize to all you nigger-lovin' kikes and homos when hell freezes over. My daughter is an operative in Army Intelligence stationed in Panama. She told me about a Black Ops thing that's gonna take place in Boulder on Halloween. You rotten Commie liberal bastards are all goin to get what's comin to you. If I wasn't a brain-damaged cripple from the time I took out a homeboy on the mean streets of Detroit, I'd join up and ride a black helicopter right up your wazoo! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Gloria Alred E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 Dear rbcp, Altho it is my ultimate hope and dream in life to put every man in prison, I'll make an exception with you. (You ARE a man, aren't you?) -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Any other Questions about the "PLA?" E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 This thread proves beyond a reasonable doubt and to a moral certainty that they are criminal in intent and action. Their "boredom" brings about the trashing of many worhtwhile forums and discussion boards on the Internet. These people are criminals pure and simple. When they aren't cheating the phone companies ( and US in the process) they are cheating people out of free and uncluttered discourse on the Internet. They don't deserve anything except indictment, trial, and imprisonment. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: OK E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday October 30, 1997 Nothing like a strong dose of reality to kill the fun. Kilroy was here, but he is right. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Wait A Minute E-mail: Location: Posted on: Friday October 31, 1997 This thread may have been started by the PLA, but the posters who soon took it over were not "criminals pure and simple." They were the BNF regulars out to have a little fun at nobody's expense. Also, it was one of the few evening threads of late that was left pretty much untouched by the usual spammers so that we could post. I think it was very clever the way it metamorphasized and shows one of the reasons many of us have stayed. In no way were we condoning, pardoning or making light of the trashing these PLA people do or the $ they cost us doing it. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Imp E-mail: Location: Posted on: Friday October 31, 1997 Good thread... brings back memories of the good old days. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Raj 2 E-mail: Location: Posted on: Friday October 31, 1997 I am apologizing to the PLA for harboring in my heart wishes that they would all be partaking of our quaint Indian suicide rituals. I am thinking that since confession is good for the soul, I must confess that I was originally stealing the hat of Raj Ramakrishna but he is being him and I am being me, so I will be calling me Raj 2 from now on and I will be calling him tomorrow. I am being too merry to stay here and I am leaving after saying I am loving even those who are loving Raj Ramakrishna who is not me but, hey, whatever. To Janet I am say "Flock you". -------------------------------------------------------- **Warning..Censorship** Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: JPL E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 I informed everyone on this forum a week ago that BCam was fed up with the goings on here and was waintig for new software to correct the situation. Prepare yourselves friends, soon all who enter these portals wiil pay the price with their freedom of speach and anonimity. Abuse it, don't use it. So, say goodbye to the pervs, the kiddies, the sickos, the habitual JOs, the scum and the rest of the uncontrollable and abusers. No respect, no participation. Whether it happens at midnight, next weekend or next month...censorship is ours. Enjoy it if you can. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Snowball E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 Will cats be allowed to post here after the censorship? Does Jerralyn know about this? Did she give permission? I love Jerralyn. I live only to do her bidding. "Jerry" is in the hospital now. Apparently the incision left by her goiter surgery is not healing properly. I am in charge until she gets back. I am Snowball. I am Jerralyn's pussy. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: to: JPL E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 snipped from your post above: "I informed everyone on this forum a week ago that BCam was fed up with the goings on here and was waintig for new software to correct the situation." end snippet Snowball makes more sense than you. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: JPL E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 Snowball, stop sniffing the cat box..."waintg" was meant to be "waiting." Do you have a brain or are you just a pussy? All others, "EXCUSE ME!!" -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Snowball E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 It was not I, the whiskered one, who wrote that catty note. My own little paws do slip at times, You'll forgive me then, I hope -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: to: JPL E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 OK, but that wasn't the real question, which is: what's BCam?? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: JPL E-mail: Location: To the inquirer Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 "BCam"is Boulder Camera....duuuhhhh! Well, no ones purrrrfect. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: to: JPL E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 that's kewl...I'm all for registration. Hope this isn't another 'insider' scam. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Snowball E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 Now, her hirsuteness wants to know.... Who cleft the Devils foot? Pray, tell before you go.... -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: john peni lewis E-mail: Location: noulder Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 I still thought you suck a mean dick for a treehugging ole fart -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: See E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 The trasher is testing to see if BNF will kill tghis thread by putting that obscene stuff on it. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: ZIGGY E-mail: Location: JOHN P LEWIS IS BUTT BOY Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 SHUT UP AND PLAY NICE WITCH -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: JPL (the tree hugging old fart E-mail: and proud of it) Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 It's a pleaure to know, that soon you will be but a blurred, quickly vaporizing, memory and then, you will disappear into the muck and slime from whence you came. Adieu..adios...take a hike...swallow hemlock...but above all, get lost! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: hehehehhe E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 sure glad I am not in boulder with SCUM like jpl running loose sucking all the cocks that he can heheheheh FUCK YOU ALL -------------------------------------------------------- A notice from the staff at BoulderNews Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: BoulderNews staff E-mail: http://www.bouldernews.com/cgi-bin/contact.cgi Location: Boulder Daily Camera Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 Hi Just a mesaage from your friendly BDC webmaster here -- the real one that is. We have been monitoring the forums very closely the last few days because the number of complaints we have been receiving from users has been increasing rapidly. We here at the Camera do not actively "censor" any of the posts but if you'll check the terms of agreement you'll see that we can remove any posts we want for any reason we deem fit. When a discussion is spammed beyond belief with obscenities it is easier for us to just remove the threads altogether in the hopes that a more civil discussion might resume. It is indeed true that we will be implementing new conferencing software that will require users to register before they will be allowed to post. The new software will also allow us to use filters to keep a majority of the obscene postings out of the threads. The new software will also be much faster and easier to navigate around in. We appreciate your patience and understanding in these matters. Sincerely - The BDC web staff -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To BNF E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 Thank you for explaining, and thank you for your efforts! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: jameson ò¿ó E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 Have you been able to keep track of who was causing the problem before? Will you be able to block them immediately when the new software is installed? (grin) -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: to: DC & BN E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 Yessss! Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!!!!! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: to: jameson ò¿ó E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 That is correct and you are on the list. Nice knowing you. {G} -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: JPL E-mail: Location: To Camera Staff Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 BRAVO! BRAVO! Encore, encore......it certainly is about time. It got to the point where many of us were fighting for our lives....or so it seemed. Thank you Boulder Camera, I shall continue my subscription. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: jameson ò¿ó E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 Ah - feels like home - at least YOU are here, you little flamer, you . (wink) -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: BoulderNews Staff E-mail: http://www.bouldernews.com/cgi-bin/contact.cgi Location: Boulder Daily Camera Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 We cannot track who has been spamming and trashing the forums because of the anonymous nature of this application. However, future implementations of the froum software will allow us to do email verifications of user registrations. No valid email address, and you can't register. Of course no system is full-proof but if we at least make it really really hard for these miscreants, maybe they'll lose interest and go on to spread their spam elsewhere. Thanks. - The BDC Web Staff -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: to: jameson ò¿ó E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 All in good fun, jamsomania. I've got a real e-mail address (no hotmail, rocketmail etc.,) and look forward to registration. I may even go back to my original 'hat'. Every board I'm on besides this one and one other is registration only. Looking forward to an improved BNF. ;-) -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Patsy E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 A couple of questions for the staff: Can I still post as Ziggy? Can I use a Hotmail address to register? Will it be OK to drink wine when we are posting? (John, please call me, Burke is still missing!) P. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Real Teacher E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 I find it interesting that Jams inquired if the BNF could find out who had been doing all the spamming. Maybe Jams was worried. Afraid of being revealed as a spammer extraordinaire. I hope that the repeated obscenities can be eliminated. I am opposed to censorship of thoughts but that person has not mind or thoughts and the merely repeat obscene remarks is a nuisance. I support what the BNF is doing. It seems necessary. However, that does not mean that all rudeness, crudeness or just plain silliness will be removed. I remember the very first few weeks of this forum, and many of the posters who have railed against the spammers were very inhospitable to anyone with new ideas or to newcomers to the forum. I also remember telling them that things could be much worse than what they were seeing. At that time, a few sarcastic remarks or off-color jokes had people seething. They lived to see that obscene and stupid posts could take over a forum and virtually destroy it. I hope that all pompous and preachy people will be grateful for the improvement and give everyone a chance to voice their opinions without resorting to rude remarks. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: wondering E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 If jams has only a desktop and a laptop computer, does that mean he can use one for jams posts and the other one to continue with the vulgar spamming? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: JPL E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 I'm very concerned for the "False" Ziggy, when the controlls go into effect, whatever will he do? I imagine we will read an article in the BDC, some time in the near future, how he was found in a cardboard box, dead from habitual masturbation. Fairwell dear boy. We knew you not and are thankful for that...and so should you be! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: to: R.T. E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 I'll agree with most of that and I'm no prude, but one poster telling another to get effed and the like aren't my idea of a discussion forum if that's what you mean by 'off color'. It only takes one or two of those to ruin a forum and discourage other posters. Same goes for posters intolerant of another's ideas and opinions to the point of ridicule. We'll see... -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: jameson ò¿ó E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 I am not one who posts vulgar - and once BC gets the ips traced, I will still be here. :) I was hoping for instant relief, that's all I meant with my question. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: ziggy's evil twin E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 Thank christ someone else is giving ziggy a bad time. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Instant Relief E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 jam, if you want instant relief, blow your brains out NOW. -------------------------------------------------------- Please, Keep This Format, BNF Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Lou E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 This format is one of the things that keeps the posters here instead of the other forums available. There's just something nice about the blue and white, and the way the threads work on this forum that allows for more real time type discussion. Hope you can keep it like it is, without the trash. Thanks for the cleanup. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Not a chance, Lou! E-mail: Enough became Enough for the BNF webmaster Location: In your face! Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 This "format" allowed obscene, trashy threads to be posted since DAY ONE. The only people who are going to complain about the new system are the people who have been involved in the trashing, i.e., The Phone Losers of America, and the deranged wannabees. Wait and see. You can be sure that the general consensus of the genuine posters here is going to be a hearty "AMEN!" -------------------------------------------------------- A new challenge for the PLA and the trashers? Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Will the BNF be purged of these vermin? E-mail: Soon to be posted as required Location: ??? at present. Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 The BNF promises a new "improved" forum which will insure that obscene off-topic threads will not be allowed. Let's hope that they keep their present plans UNDER WRAPS! This latest announcement is sure to place the PLA vermin like Samantha Stack into a fit. One less forum for them to hack and trash. What a beautiful prospect! -------------------------------------------------------- Registration Process Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: BNF Webmaster E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 If you intend to continue posting on this forum, you must now register. We are making it easy; Just post on this thread with your online name (aka "Hat") along with your correct e-mail address which needs to match the address that you are sending from. As an example, Hotmail won't work. Thanks, Paul -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Night Owl E-mail: birdlady@aol.com Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 BNF, Thanks, it is about time! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Sure, Paul E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 Will do. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: CStuart E-mail: stuart@earthlink.com Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 Please add me to the registration list. Thank you. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Please, Don't Post E-mail: Correct E-Mail Location: Publicly Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 This is a hoax registration thread. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Jerralyn E-mail: Jerry@goiter.com Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 Me too. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Claudia E-mail: c_hall@ucla.com/history/local/mail Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 Please add me to the registration list. Thank you. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Patsy P E-mail: Home@alone.com Location: GA Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 I'm in!! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Connie Two E-mail: bigone@aol.com Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 For this I will return... Good posters here, butthe trash kept me away... I add my thanks BNF Webmaster! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: GSH E-mail: @CowboysLostToday.com Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 Yep, add me to that great list, and should I add my IP # also? Thank you, oh great Webmaster. It is truly a pleasure to respond to your informative post, and I look forward to your next message. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Guess E-mail: You're nutz.com Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 What a jerk. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: rbcp E-mail: bac@bright.net Location: oHiO Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 Don't leave me out in the cold!! I'm right there with you wonderful people. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Grumpy E-mail: Thatone@girl.com Location: OR Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 Love this new Hat!!! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Bunnyfoofoo E-mail: perky@nausea.com Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 Giggles and Squeals to all. I'm just all giggly over the forum being all nice and spiffy! :) -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: ziggy E-mail: logic@box.com Location: cali Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 Wow! I always wanted this 'hat' and now it's mine, mine, mine, mine, mine...all mine -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: China E-mail: doll@antique.store Location: MidWest Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 Please accept my above submission as willingness to accept registration on this forum. Love these creative threads. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Watson E-mail: scared@paranoid.com Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 Count me in since I can't get into heaven tonight. They lock me out, can you imagine that! I think it was that prick jams. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: skydog E-mail: skydog@webmasterwannabe.com Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 Please let me register and also let me help run this site. I am the best webmaster around. Just look at how well I hid the Heaven Forum. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: ReadyMix E-mail: slick@streets.com Location: OH Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 Watson, What's going on in Heaven? I'm still an angel, I think... -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: mapek E-mail: AuntM@passtherolls.com Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 Is this like a dinner invitation or an open invitation? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Wanatchee E-mail: lunatic@bitch.com Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah and blah blah blah blah blah....... -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Jams is E-mail: stinkinguptheplace@j-7.com Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 Go back to heaven and stop making it hell for other forums. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Questioner E-mail: rogers@expressmail.com Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 Sign me up, I like it. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Geraldo E-mail: GR@skunkhair.net Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 You heard it here first, folks! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: jameson E-mail: RamFan@upJRs.com Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 how many isps can i register? i need lots of hats for spamming and also for those posts that compliment ME and tell everyone how POLITE i am. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Mel E-mail: Mel@pluto.com Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 SantaSantaSantaSantaSantaSantaSantaSantaSantaSanta SantaSantaSantaSantaSantaSantaSantaSantaSantaSanta SantaSantaSantaSantaSantaSantaSantaSantaSantaSanta SantaSantaSantaSantaSantaSantaSantaSantaSantaSanta SantaSantaSantaSantaSantaSantaSantaSantaSantaSanta -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Janet E-mail: AngelSlut@heaving.com Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 xoxoxoxoxoxxoxoxox -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Real Teacher E-mail: missgatch@ix.netcomn.com Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 Wonderful BNF! This will make it much better. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Kuan-Yin E-mail: K-Y@cybersleuths.com Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 Register me only if I am allowed to attach animated gifs to all my posts. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: BayB B E-mail: b_baron@pacbell.net Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 About to check out for tonight, but want to be sure I can sign on tomorrow. Please count me in. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: ToppCat E-mail: katts@ibm.com Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 I want to register and also do test. Will post on a seperate thread. This is a good idea. Already things are quiter. I hope everyone likes my idea/offer. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: ANOTHER PLA HOAX? E-mail: They are bored and have nothing else to do! Location: Somewhere in the USA Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 The BNF is not going to do ANYTHING to clean up this board! The Phone Losers of America know it and post messages to the contrary. Expect a torrent of more obscene threads here. That is all that they can contribute to ANYTHING. The BNF webmaster is a LAMER and the PLA knew it months ago. Samantha Stack alerted Ryan Scott months ago after she found this forum. Poor "LogicBox!" It looks like his PLA "buddies" ratted on him. This just goes to prove that there is no honor among thieves! Too bad for the "Heaven Forum" users. They have someone like "Sam" or "Ryan" in their midst who is going to wipe their little group out once again. -------------------------------------------------------- Censorship Rules Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: rbcp E-mail: bac@bright.net Location: oHIo Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 The BNF is full of shit. It is very easy for them to log the IP of everyone who posts here just like when they used to include the IPs in posts. It's a simple line of script. Second of all, they could have stopped all of the problems a long time ago by temporarily banning the ISP of the person posting for a week or so OR they could send the IP log to the ISP's abuse department and explain the situation to them. That's how I maintain control on my own web board and it works fine. The new format with it's "new security features" is not going to work. If I want to post something, I'll post it. The BNF's terms says I have that right. So there. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: ShakaKili E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 Right ON! my brother -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To: RBCP E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 I thinkl it would be a good idea for you to read the terms and conditions again. Especially the second paragraph. You know, the one about agreeing not to post "vulgar, obscene, hateful, sexually oriented" language. I realize this will hamper you, given the limitations of your vocabulary, but do give it a try. You and your following of little foul-mouthed teeny boppers will soon be out of here, pal. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Trolling Too E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 Give it up! One prolific poster is dominating the threads and it is not BoulderNews Staff posting about filters, registration, and security features. Face it, night posters, we have been had by our not so friendly Forum Poltergeist. -------------------------------------------------------- To: The Trasher Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: .... E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 You are really going off the deep end the last few days. The amount of time you seem to be spending here is getting beyond weird. There's no news on the case, so most of us are just stopping by briefly. Occaisionally we get a good thread going, but most of the time we don't even care. Most of what goes on here is you. By yourself. Alone. Posting stuff that means nothing to anybody. Do you really think the fact that you started another stupid thread about ziggy or something is having an impact on anyone? What is it? Did you get flamed here once? Is this a payback or something? What could possibly motivate a person to do this? I am really curious. It's really getting pitiful. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: DX E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 Actually, I do think the person who is doing this now is mentally ill. Looking over the threads he or she has created, there are real signs of a person having an acute breakdown. The person seems very obsessed with this forum and certain posters. There is a lot of disorganized thinking. And there is delusional thinking too, for example, the person creates threads and then trashes them, as if these messages meant something or carry some importance to others. In the past we've had typical teen type stuff, and some clever stuff that really did succeed in inconveniencing us. But this is just sort of irrational, disorganized and obsessive. Some paranoia is also present. The other stuff made me mad, but this just depresses me because I can really see an isolated, pitiful person behind it. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: I agree E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 It appears that the trashing stopped at 5:1am edt. Does anyone know what time the trashing started yesterday? It will be interesting to track the timeframes of this very ill person. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: A Regular E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 I tend to agree with the posters above. The way the person is so persistent amazes me. I do really think we might be getting into the area of mental illness now. I think even a very angry person would burn out after a little while. It's like the person is fixated or something. Well, I hope they get better. It is a pathetic person. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Secretary E-mail: Location: Heaven Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 What do I think of the trasher? Hell hath no furry like a WOMAN SCORNED. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Aunt M E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 I read somewhere that repetitive trashers and posters of filth and profanity were obsessive masturbaters. I think there's a great deal of truth in that. Thank you. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To Secretary E-mail: Location: Heaven Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 And we know who that furious woman scorned is, don't we?????????????????????????? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To Secretary E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 You, jameson, are the CREATURE scorned, and I have always thought you are the one posting the pornographic filth. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: To Aunt M E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 Do you think the obsessive masturbater that is posting this filth also posted about sick puppy masturbating all over the Ramsey house? Interesting observation. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: ROFL E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 Upon reading the Heaven archives and checking in on the Heaven Forum this morning, I see the angels are in quite a frenzy. Did they get caught with their wings down? LOL -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Ace E-mail: Location: The real Ace Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 This person uses everyones name he/she can in making post. He/she has a lot of free time. Has probably lost their job due to being fired. I have been working on this. Believe I'll have their number soon. So, don't be surprised if all of a sudden they vanish. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: concered & angry E-mail: Location: Posted on: Sunday November 02, 1997 Yesterday I posted a thread, "Who's DAVID WHITE?" I'm amazed how swiftly it has disappeared..very little time for response. Could this have anything to do with the trashing and scrolling? There are many teachers out there who are more than just uncomfortable with the mentioning of the D.White case, let alone with seeing it in print on the net. It certainly is obvious by the total lack of response from any of the BVSD teachers as to their feelings of my post. Couldn't be..........................could it?? Definitely not!! But then.............?????????????????????? -------------------------------------------------------- The bottom bit here Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: ziggy E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday November 03, 1997 By starting a discussion you acknowledge that the Daily Camera does not in any way monitor and cannot be held liable for the content of these discussion groups. You, the readers, are responsible for the content posted here. This is cool, I can like say cool stuff testes .. testes.... 1, 2 , 3 -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Why don't you get a life? E-mail: BNF member Location: Right here, right now. Posted on: Monday November 03, 1997 What is your major malfunction? Don't you have anything better in your life than to spend time trashing an Internet discussion forum? It appears not. By the way, you really ought to get paid by someone for what you are doing here, day in and day out. Send your bill to John Ramsey if you haven't already done that. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: to: ziggy E-mail: Location: Posted on: Monday November 03, 1997 you're the reason we changed the scripting the last time, next time it's changed...you're history. have fun while u can... -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: You Are One Step Closer Friend E-mail: To Being Held Accountable For Location: Your Actions. Read On! Posted on: Monday November 03, 1997 You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use the BoulderNews discussion boards to post any material which is false and defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise violative of any law.You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use the BoulderNews discussion boards to post any material which is false and defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise violative of any law. -------------------------------------------------------- WHAT THE HELL???? Return to the Ramsey forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Amish E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday August 21, 1997 I used to lurk here a couple of months ago. I have been offline for a while and just returned. What the hell is happening here? This has been going on for a while, I presume? Who is PLA? Are they responsible? Who is queer? The PLA? Somebody has to tell me, this is too good to miss!!Is the PLA one of those "it's ok to have sex with kids" groups? Why would kids want to trash this forum? Most of the people here are here because they have seen the cruel things that adults sometimes do to children. We want to see justice done and the guilty ones fry. Why don't they go trash forums that feature people that they actually have a gripe with? Someone who goes against everything they believe would be a more satisfying target, I would think. Someone please send me a clue! Got my laptop in the buggy, Amish -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Clue? E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday August 21, 1997 You know as much as anyone as why. There is no why, there is only who. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Athemysst E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday August 21, 1997 Everyone got tired fighting. A lot of people went over to the forum at Joshua-7.com. Like Mrs. Brady and Murphy and others. Jameson. I don't know the exact address, but I type www.joshua-7.com from my browser address window and I get there with a couple of clicks. Joshua-7 only has a few offerings and the forum is, I suppose, "better" than this one. [And that's more or less it for the postings on the old BNF board. The Daily Camera finally did upgrade to a new & improved web board but it didn't take care of any of their problems as far as we could see. The software would ask for an address but it never confirmed it, meaning you could set up 1,000 accounts a day if you wanted to. Maybe it just had better logging features. The layout of the new board kind of sucked compared to the old layout so alot of the regulars disappeared and/or quit posting and alot of the spam died down, probably because of the same reason. But several weeks later it more or less started over again with everyone arguing and spam happening at the speed of light. And then without warning BNF pulled the plug and replaced all three web boards with the message you saw at the beginning of this issue. The next day that message was replaced by this one: ] [Welcome to BoulderNews] Our forums are now closed. Despite several efforts, bouldernews was unable to keep obscene and indecent language off the web site. Not only did the hackers who broke into the forum go far beyond the measure of good taste, they also put private information about many people on the web site. For this reason we had no choice but to close the forums. We appreciate your understanding in these matters. [This was actually funny because the ONLY people posting any kind of private information were the BNF regulars when they went on their "Smash the PLA" campaign and started posting the personal/work information of Tannest, LogicBox and RBCP. (Detailed a few issues back.) Days later, they changed the message AGAIN: ] [Welcome to BoulderNews] Our forums are temporarily closed. updated: 11/23/96 Our forums are temporarily closed following our migration to a more secure installation. We will be implementing stronger spam and obscenity filters as well as an improved registration process. If you were a previously registered user, please note that you will be required to re-register as we will be requiring email verification. We appreciate your patience during this transition and look forward to seeing you at our new home. If you have any questions or comments, please feel free to contact us. ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿ ³ JOSHUA-7 POSTS: ³ ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ [Alot of you might remember the Joshua-7 board from previous issues of BNF. After the apparent demise of the BNF, all of the regulars flocked over to Joshua-7 to whine about it. Here's what was said the first few days. ] Subject: BNF is no more--- Name: LurkerXIV Time/Date: 01:47:59 11/21/97 Message: The Boulder News Forum has shut down "indefinitely". The reason given is that they can no longer spend the time and effort to deal with "trashers and miscreants". Expect an influx of new posters here soon. Subject: dimwits win? Name: Waiting Time/Date: 15:07:16 11/21/97 Message: What can I say that hasn't already been said? Thanks to the poster who did the graphic of the little red wagon . . . that at least made me smile! I'm going to resist the temptation to rant and rave and just say that "quite frankly", I just hope we can find some kind of a place to keep discussion of the JBR case going until arrest/trial/resolution. I don't really care where that place is, as long as we can find it and each other. Mrs. Brady, thanks as well; without your note about BNF on your page (which I check every morning), I wouldn't have found this place. Keep on keepin' on, right gang? Subject: I hope you're satisfied Name: Tippy Time/Date: 05:03:29 11/21/97 Message: Whoever you are, you've killed the goose that laid the golden eggs. Subject: BNF closing Name: maxi Time/Date: 02:00:26 11/21/97 Message: Where did you get this info? Subject: BNF closed? Name: Nina Time/Date: 02:32:18 11/21/97 Message: I posted there this morning, early. Just went there-- Web Crossing closed message. I know there was a trasher real early, but I left about almost 8 am MST. Cher said she had just then e-mailed the webmaster. Anyone else know what happened later? Subject: BNF Name: BeaHaven Time/Date: 02:41:44 11/21/97 Message: This is what is posted on their main page: Our forums are now closed. Because we have had too many instances of break-ins and forum trashing, we regret to announce that we are closing down our forums for the time being. The closure is indefinite and we can offer no estimation as to when, or if, they will come back up. We simply cannot afford to continue pouring time, effort and money into a project a few miscreants are determined to trash by any means necessary. We appreciate your understanding in these matters. I am just sick. I am sure that they have spent some money tring to keep up the forum. I really didn't think they would stop just when they almost had it licked. Subject: Error message Name: Questioner Time/Date: 02:35:36 11/21/97 Message: I see the Web crossing message that the server is busy or inactive, but it also says to try again later. Is someone else seeing a different message, or did someone receive email from the webmaster at BNF? Subject: BNF message Name: Rockford Time/Date: 02:49:04 11/21/97 Message: The message is in the url below. I'm so mad I could spit nails! I thought they were thisclose to putting an end to the trasher nonsense! Well, I hope they're satisfied. What pathetic lives they must lead. Subject: Error message BNF Name: Nina Time/Date: 02:43:17 11/21/97 Message: Questioner: I see the same one you do, the one they used last weekend. Have not seen anything about why, or how long ETC. Maybe someone else will post it here. Subject: To: Miss Beahavin Name: Nina Time/Date: 02:49:30 11/21/97 Message: Omigod! How awful, they were really getting it 'right' I thought. Well the comments this morning were from the "nazi" element, pretty gross, but we've had worse. Ah well, it is a pity really for most posters were great. Thanks Miss B. for letting us know. I am sorry to hear it though. We can only hope there is a slim chance they will carry on. Subject: BNF Name: BeaHaven Time/Date: 03:01:54 11/21/97 Message: Nina, I think that they will be back up. Right now it is probably a spitting contest between BNF and whoever sold them the program as to who fixes it. We wil have to just wait and see, but the last time the forum was down, there was no message like there is now. I have my fingers crossed and I know many others do. Subject: BNF Name: GSH Time/Date: 03:35:35 11/21/97 Message: Howdy, Miss B..What do the posters have to offer the BN? A small minority of posters had to try and spam, trash, and do all they could to destroy our Forum. Enough is enough, and BN has had enough. It is a sad night when the minority wins...and the sincere posters are thrown out with the bathwater. Subject: BNF Name: BeaHaven Time/Date: 03:51:57 11/21/97 Message: Hi GSH, You and I watched the Tom Sullivan melt down and a sad thing it was too. I am hopeful that BNF will stick with it as they have already made a large investment to try to keep it going, but who knows. They are clearly disgussted with it all. Subject: BNF Name: Drewco Time/Date: 04:28:27 11/21/97 Message: Free speech in America? Not if a certain element doesn't like what you're saying and is determined to stifle it. A sad situation. Subject: PLA is already celebrating... Name: MrsBrady Time/Date: 04:20:49 11/21/97 Message: check out the post by RBCP on the general thread at this URL Subject: PLA Name: DavidWill Time/Date: 04:36:07 11/21/97 Message: Ah, Mrs Brady, I was just sitting here wondering how long it would take till they started. I can understand the BNF feeling they had to do something, but oh how I hate giving those ???? any satisfaction at the PLA. I'm sure Dan and David have built some protection here, but you know those little vermin will paint a big bullseye here. So sad, silly, and useless. Subject: Hmmmm PLA Name: MrsBrady Time/Date: 04:39:13 11/21/97 Message: "they" are probably already here, remember Betsy? Subject: true, MrsBrady Name: DavidWill Time/Date: 04:46:56 11/21/97 Message: however, I have always viewed Betsy as a faint attempt at humor.Here, there is none of the vulgarities and racisim that have recently populated the posts at BNF. I have always checked both places, posted very little. I just resent capitulating, understand it, but I don't have to like it! In my mind, the PLA are minds still in diapers---problem is the diapers are at the WRONG end --they would be better served to reverse the position in order to catch all the c***! Subject: thanks for the info Name: Questioner Time/Date: 04:43:17 11/21/97 Message: Thanks for the URL. This is truly sad. I wonder if a letter-writing campaign would help change their minds. However, I can't blame them at all, because they don't get any money for running the forums, but lots of aggravation. Subject: e-mail campaign Name: maxi Time/Date: 05:05:33 11/21/97 Message: Well, I just sent an e-mail protesting the closing of the BNF. I have a real thing about letting the bad guys take things away from the good guys. It's like phone booths. Remember them? We (in most big U.S. cities and suburbs) no longer have them because vandals messed them up. So we allowed the bad guys to sentence us all to stand in the rain. 'Tain't right and it's happening to often nowadays. Subject: Beg them, and thank them Name: Lou Time/Date: 04:50:21 11/21/97 Message: There is a link on Mrs. Brady's page, thanks, where we can send our requests that they take the time to finish securing the forum, and get it back up. I mentioned to them that if they require a return on e-mail for registering, we must have assurance of security. Subject: BNF Name: Postergal Time/Date: 04:47:50 11/21/97 Message: I'm really upset. I won't look at that PLA page. How disgusting. I don't think this last was them anyway. I just can't stand the thought of not even being able to fight back. I remember many nights (under different hats) when we were getting bombed, just making new threads and copying the old posts to them, just so there would always be an active thread, and getting pushed down to the bottom, and going right back up to the top again. We really did fight. Babe/Poster gal Subject: PLA or WHO? Name: Nina Time/Date: 05:06:15 11/21/97 Message: Postergal/Babe, after showing my hubby the message, disgusted as I am, he said, that's not kids closing the forum, its that guy JR. It's his computer company doing it. No doubt about it. They want an end to it. Well, I don't know, but he never reads or really discusses the forum, but works with comps.and putting programs online for the govt., so I kinda wonder if this might be possibly true. We will see if the e-mail to BN helps, but I think they are in no mood to consider right now. Subject: To Nina Name: Roserock Time/Date: 07:12:30 11/21/97 Message: My son's a MCSE and he thinks this is entirely possible. Ramsey's company has plenty of people that would be more than happy to help fuel their move up the ladder. If this is the truth behind the BNF shutdown, it means that the forum was getting to Ramsey and the truth. Subject: BNF Name: ergo Time/Date: 05:03:05 11/21/97 Message: Hi All, Say it ain't so. :( Hard to believe after all the work BN did they will just give up. Oh well friends, we fought the good fight for sure over at BNF. What a wild and crazy time it was. I will miss the forum and all of you guys. Peace Subject: Why? Name: Postergal Time/Date: 05:43:59 11/21/97 Message: I was away most of the day. Was there real bad trashing today? Did something happen? Or was it just a naughty post or two. Was anyone on there right when it went down? What will ever happen to the night shift? Subject: Night Shift Name: BeaHaven Time/Date: 05:53:36 11/21/97 Message: Postergal, the Nightshift will be somewhere, you can bet on that. They never let the trashers run them off even in the worse of times. b Subject: BNF Name: GSH Time/Date: 06:17:11 11/21/97 Message: Hi, all..Reporting in for the Night Shift, and trying not to cry on my keyboard. We have spent so many nights together that it is with sadness I post here. Something went wrong on the BNF that they couldn't have banned ISP's of those that started all of the trashing in the beginning. In a lighter mood, we only have 3 to 6 months to see if Chief Koby has a case to prosecute...Nothing light about that, but Koby is humorous...Does he ever listen to what he is saying? I would respect him more if he would say.."quack, quack, quack" and we would watch those ducks line up..*wishful thinking beats regular thinking* Subject: BNF Name: Tippy Time/Date: 07:03:42 11/21/97 Message: Hi GSH and all. I know just how you feel. I told my husband that I should be very angry, but right now I feel so let down. Would like to see someone post who was online when it went down. What could have been bad enough to cause them to quit when they had just gone to all the trouble of getting the new programming? Subject: BNF Name: BeaHaven Time/Date: 06:25:07 11/21/97 Message: GSH, don't get the keyboard wet, that's a no no. You do that and you'll be out of here for sure. I am so hoping that the message is just a sign of how flustrated BNF is about the whole thing. There they were and we were, all happy as a Lark thinking that it was all over but the shouting. Then Wham! Right between the eyes. Subject: Apology and some BNF clarification Name: MrsBrady Time/Date: 12:35:36 11/21/97 Message: I'd like to apologize to Betsy and anyone who took my inference that Betsy is part of the PLA seriously. It was an irresponsible attempt at tongue-in-cheek humor ONLY. I'm very sorry and will try to curb the sarcasm in the future. (Don't want to be banned here too!). There were at least 2 duplicate posts by a "Neil Hitler" (not sure of that first name) who used the words f*** and b****. Sounded like a skinhead, white-supremicist. A few of us sent email to Wally to alert him that it was there. Maybe management, alarmed by the current neo-nazi violence in Denver, pulled the plug. Whatever, we need to beg, plead, grovel, and try to get the forum restored. I will check to see if it's back EVERY DAY, suggest you all do too. I am optimistic... Subject: What Happened? Name: Lurker Time/Date: 14:03:46 11/21/97 Message: Mrs. B. and all, The last post I saw on the BNF was the Neo-Natzi crap. Geraldo's show last night was on the escalation of hate crimes going on in Boulder. Is this why the forum is down? First time here...not sure where this post ends up. Is everybody here?...now? Give me a Hi sign. Subject: to Lurker Name: Curious Time/Date: 14:12:53 11/21/97 Message: Welcome. Most of the BNF regulars are here. However, the Nightshift seems to prefer the "old" Joshua board. Click on the URL button below and you'll be transported there. Curious Subject: BNF and PLA Name: Lacey Time/Date: 12:42:01 11/21/97 Message: Whatever. Whoever is responsible for this, PLA, Skinhead, Independent Spammer ... I hope somebody someday will fix their wagons. Hmmph! L8r- Lacey Subject: Thanks, Curious...woe is me Name: Lurker Time/Date: 14:29:06 11/21/97 Message: Trying to find my way around. Nice place but I miss home... :-( Subject: truly sad event Name: fly Time/Date: 14:36:14 11/21/97 Message: Morning, everybody. I can't blame BNF, but I wish they had kept trying at least a little longer. I, too, hate to see the bad guys win. BNF called it when they referred to them as "miscreants." Maybe it is linked to the neo-Nazi garbage that is stirred up in Denver right now, or maybe the miscreants are just using that as a convenient format. Lurker - I'm with you. Maybe this will seem like home eventually, but it'll take awhile. Subject: Bummer Name: Postergal Time/Date: 14:54:01 11/21/97 Message: Thanks Mrs B. Nice to see other BNF denizens. I guess it's not so much the forum I'll miss, but the mix of posters we had. Many have been here all along (eating off both sides of the buffet table!) I don't blame the BNF. They were making no money on that forum, and they did try. I suspect some security or technical problem that made maintinence just too costly. I sure hope they will be back up someday. If there's ever a trial, I want to hear what all you guys have to say about it. Poster gal/Babe Subject: Displacement Name: Houston Time/Date: 15:20:37 11/21/97 Message: "There's no place like home....there's no place like home...(clicking my heels)." Drats. Well, I guess it would be helpful if we could decide on an official place for us to post--hopefully temporarily. I feel like the child who went to school and when she returned home, her parents had moved. Thank you J-7 posters for the condolences and the warm welcome. Subject: Maybe Name: fly Time/Date: 15:05:14 11/21/97 Message: Maybe the trashers were doing more than we were aware of. Yes, the occasional inappropriate post got through, and I take it some yesterday were pretty bad, but I'm a bit surprised they would shut things down just because of that. Nobody on the forum could complain if they only cleaned up once a day; we've dealt with much worse at times. I have to wonder if their reference to security breaches involve more than the access to posters' names that occurred a week or so ago. Maybe the trashers were attacking the system in more serious ways, causing the whole thing to crash, or messing around with other parts of the BoulderNews system. Now that would be a better reason for closing shop. Subject: I agree Name: Postergal Time/Date: 15:19:20 11/21/97 Message: Fly - I agree that there may have been problems we never saw. I've often wondered why a small paper like the Daily Camera had a website at all, much less forums. They had very little advertsing, even on their front page. And if they are getting hits from all over the country for the JBR atuff, why would that induce a say a local law firm or real estate agent to put ads there. And most of us went in via the back door anyway. I'm sure their whole web operation loses money. I went and looked at kracked.com, which hosts the PLA board. You wouldn't believe the junk they support. A guy actually has a web page devoted to enemas there. This is the saddest bunch of sites I've ever seen, PLA is right where they belong. URL for kracked.com below. Subject: Good Idea ergo Name: Lurker Time/Date: 15:18:01 11/21/97 Message: Feeling a bit like an interloper. Not sure what I'm doing yet...a numbered thread would be helpful. Gees, I hate being out of my comfort zone. Subject: To: Fly on the wall Name: Nina Time/Date: 15:14:28 11/21/97 Message: You may be right. It seems extreme to close it only for profane postings. Maybe they were causing much more security breakins. Another view-- posted awhile ago that the Troll poster "had tried or attempted to post several times today" I often wonder what that meant, "attempted" and how the Another view poster knew that?? Was that really SYSOPS? That poster seems to know a lot of tech-stuff, so maybe he knew more than we did. Subject: Why BNF? Name: Lurker Time/Date: 15:41:55 11/21/97 Message: Actually, I kind of like the cream background, and being able to read the posts together in sequence, unless I was doing it wrong on BNF...want to make sure I can find everyone tomorrow...my sense of direction stinks. About the security breach...I wonder if something happened last weekend when web crossing was off for so long, but why pick on BNF? Subject: Hi, BNFers Name: mcafee Time/Date: 15:40:59 11/21/97 Message: Just wanted to be present and accounted for here with you all. Thanks for the hospitality, Dan and everyone. I've sent my e-mail to Wally, begging and pleading and groveling, as Mrs. B. has suggested we all do. Couldn't hurt. Subject: trollcatcher Name: fly Time/Date: 15:50:24 11/21/97 Message: Nina - My guess was that Trollcatcher was just a poster who, like the troll, knew how to access the system files that show identity and posting info. S/He said a couple of times that s/he had informed BNF of the security breaches that existed. Subject: Howdy Name: Aunt M Time/Date: 16:39:48 11/21/97 Message: Isn't this lovely?! Sorry to see BNF having so much trouble. Been very busy this week with the David White trial...ugggggg! Was in the middle of a wonderful debate with a young man and when I tried to resume our discussion, well you know, no more BNF. I really dislike illmannered people. I have come to appreciate the small graces of life and I treasure courtesy and respect. They are the backbone of a civilized society. I have no use for those who caused the shut down of BNF and I do hope we will not have to tolerate their presence here. To all of you other fine people let us proceed and enjoy each others company and friendship. Thank you. Subject: yeah Name: Rockford Time/Date: 17:23:26 11/21/97 Message: I agree that something is not quite right with the BNF closure. I checked out the PLA message board, and they seem to be surprised themselves - they thought they had been beaten! Subject: Mrs B for President Name: ergo Time/Date: 17:39:19 11/21/97 Message: I am serious! :) Thanks Mrs B for the BNF thread on the Open Forum. For the orphans of the BNF and anyone else who cares to join us there! Great move to the Open Forum Mrs B as it is faster than the JonBenet forum to download. Not as much K. Thanks again to Dan. Peace Subject: sinister? Name: MrsBrady Time/Date: 18:45:20 11/21/97 Message: What could the motive for shutting down the BNF? They said it was due to miscreants, but is it coincidental that the shut-down happened right after the Rocky Mountain News (same parent company, Scripps) launched it's chat forums? Ergo: you are sweet, but I must decline, I am just a little old middle-aged matron with fast fingers, I'll be a follower thanks. Hey, come on over to the BNF numbered thread on the Open Forum...this one is getting TOO long and will be slow to load for the newcomers. [A month later...] Subject: Thanks Dan Name: Postergal Time/Date: 14:07:28 12/14/97 Message: mRS brAdY rULz! (A little BNF humor) It's great here, and I've really enjoyed meeting all the interesting posters here. PLA update: They are mainly fighting like weasals in a barrel. One argument has been whether to have a special discussion thread dedicated to what they call "masterbating" In fact this activity seems to be the subject of many of their posts to one another. Tannest is now persona non grata. Spessa is also on the outs. They have found a quilting forum to trash. They have started by accusing the old gals of being lesbians. They have been mentioning Mrs Brady and her website quite a bit. They even have quotes from it! Their main goal still seems to be how many very naughty words they can use in a sentence. To see for your self, click on URL, then choose discussion, then "general" Subject: Assist, PosterGal? Name: Cher Time/Date: 15:47:48 12/14/97 Message: I went there (it certainly is evident from the type of words they use who was plaguing our board all that time) but even though I checked out their discussion board I couldn't find any mention of BNF or Mrs. Brady. Can you give a little more direction on this, PosterGal? Subject: It's there Name: Postergal Time/Date: 15:55:10 12/14/97 Message: Cher: here's a more exact URL. You have to scroll down a bit to see it. They are still totally hung up on us. Did you see the plans to attack the quilting forum? ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿ ³ THE JAMESON PHONE CALL: ³ ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ This happened many months ago but was only recently submitted to us by Spessa, one of the original BNF trashers. She thought it'd be a riot to call up Sue Jameson (then a BNF regular) at 4am and pretend that Patsy Ramsey had been arrested. Me: (dialing...ring ring ring...) Sue: Hello? Me: Go turn on the news *now* theres been an arrest Sue: Oh my god Me: Patsy's been arrested Sue: Who is it? Patsy has? Me: Yes, turn it on goodness Can you believe that? Sue: All right, I can't get the TV in Me: ok. I can't believe this Sue: I'm on (channel) 19, it's not on Me: ok Sue: nope give me another one Me: CNN? Sue: That's 19, its not on Me: It was about 4 minutes ago...you got it? Sue: nope theres another man talking, where are you? Me: oh geez Sue: where are you? Me: Where am I? Colorado Sue: (someones name, garbled)? Me: No, I'm Mary-Ann Sue: Who is this? Me: Mary-Ann Schwartz, I've been posting on the board Sue: good god, I'm sorry, I thought you were my daughter Me: oh, no Sue: You sound just like my daughter Me: Nope, sorry Sue: Mary-Ann Schwartz. What name do you use? me: Speda? (just because it sounds like I'm asking a question) s-p-e-d-a Sue: oh, okay. No, I can't believe that shes arrested Me: well, it WILL be on, it was on about 5 minutes ago Sue: What did they say? Me: um, they're not releasing any of the information at the moment, but theres been an arrest, and that got me intruiged, so I watched for a few more minutes and then they said that the arrest was Patsy. I just cannot believe this. I was convinced that it wasn't her. Poor baby. (I sound like I'm starting to cry) Sue: I don't know that it was. me: oh, I just think they're setting her up or something. Sue: well, yes, Ella really does believe its her. She really does believe its her. But did he do this without giving any information to Hunter? Me: It's so complicated (sigh) I..I just want to believe...that it wasn't....and that she didn't have to suffer like that..(cry) aw man Sue: no matter who did it, the child suffered Me: yeah, but her own mother, how horrid sue: don't belive anything until you hear it from (?) me: okay you're right, you're right Sue: If theres been an arrest, I don't understand why I'm not getting it, if theres been an arrest, it seems to me that they're doing it on their own without, they just went out and got her. Me: right, I don't know if it had anything to do with these handwriting samples or what, I don't know why they would, just out of the blue in the middle of the night..my husband woke me up to tell me (sigh) Sue: I'm still not finding it me: all right, can you call me back if or when you hear? sue: all right, hold on and let me get the number (wait) You woke me out of a sound sleep me: oh I'm so sorry Sue: now I'm just kind of going crazy, ok your name is mary ann, spell your last name Me: S-c-h-w-a-r-t-z sue: and your number there me: 303-691-0010 sue: uh stay right where you are, and I'll make some phone calls me: okay sue: i will get the answers me: okay bye sue: bye ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿ ³ LETTERS TO THE PLA CRIMINAL CARTEL: ³ ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ [During this entire year of mess we created, we got alot of e-mail, most of it from angry BNF protesters. Here is some of the better e-mail. ] Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 13:34:48 -0600 From: Hominid To: bueno@peak.org Subject: What the hell is PLA? Please forgive my ignorance, but just what is PLA? I found you by searching Yahoo because someone claiming to be PLA has decided to wreck havoc on the message board at: http://www.bouldernews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?Ramsey I find it hard to believe this person is PLA, they lack your obvious comedic brillance. I suppose they are just PLA wannabes. Sorry if I intruded on your day with a foolish question but you were the first one listed on the e-mail page. Regards, Hominid [The following e-mail was forwarded from the system administrater of kracked.com, who is the host of www.phonelosers.org. He seemed mostly amused at this whole incident and always forwarded us cool e-mail. ] ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 09:53:29 -0400 From: James Bennett The PLA web site being run here on kracked.com is not only releasing illegal information, but they are involved in ongoing illegal activities. If you read their ZINE, issue #45, a person calling himself Logic Box gives the URL of the Boulder News Forum and instructions on how to harrass and terrorize these innocent people. I am a regular poster on the Boulder News Forum and the PLA has chosen this site to attack just for fun or something to do. Also, if you read their ZINE back issues, you will see tens, or hundreds of crimes listed which they have participated in in the way of hacking, phreaking, and harrassment. This group thinks it's fun to terrorize innocent people and they regularly pick on helpless older or very young victims. There are instructions on this board on how to perform illegal phone activities and the members regularly admit to phreaking, and other illegal phone related activities. It is my intention to bring legal charges against the leader of the PLA, webmaster of the PLA site, and their service provider. I am giving you the benifit of notification so you will have a chance to remove yourself legally from this group. The PLA has enough evidence posted on their website to cause serious legal problems for themselves and anyone providing internet service for them. This group has moved their website 7 times recently, and that should tell you something about the content. Kracked.com should cancel PLA accounts, or be held liable for their illegal activities. The next notification you will receive will be from Mr. Charles Mooney, attorney at law. Sincerely, James P. Bennett [Think Jameson could have used the word "legal" just one more time? The next one is even better, from another BNF regular fed up with PLA's name on their board. This one was sent directly to rbcp. ] From: MaryHedman@aol.com Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 18:27:18 -0400 (EDT) To: bac@bright.net Subject: Defamation To whom it may concern: On the web page you created and disseminated are statements about me that are completely false and defamatory. There is not even one detail that is factually correct. I know the source of these lies, and I know that the motive is malicious. Therefore, this is legally actionable defamation and I am entitled to damages from anyone who publishes this defamation. If these defamatory statements concerning me persist in any manner whatsoever, my next action will be to have my attorneys contact your IP. I will be given the information concerning your identity if I am forced to sue you in federal court. The defamatory statements are in no way protected under the first amendment. Furthermore, I believe your conduct is criminal under various federal statutes, and perhaps treble damages for a civil RICO action would also apply. If I have to pursue you legally, these are the actions I will take. I know that "Tannest", "Lori", "Pudgy aka Windor, Texas2" and others are involved in this defamation. I intend to pursue damages actions against all tort feasors and each of you will be jointly and severally liable for the entire amoung of the damages. You will also be liable for the defamation that was published on the Boulder News Ramsey forum. Sincerely, Mary Hedman [Oh shit, they're going to send attorneys after his IP. This next one is another e-mail sent to Micah, the kracked.com sysadm. ] From: Carolgenc@aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 16:11:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: PAL A group of hoodlums are using your service to terrorize and post obscenity on the Boulder News Forum. This forum is intended for those who wish to discuss the investigation into the murder of JonBenet Ramsey. It has reached the point that these PAL people have so disrupted the forum that it can no longer be used. I would appreciate your taking whatever steps are available to you to stop this attack. I can't really identify these people except to say that it has something to do with someone called RBCP and/or Jameson, in addition to the Phone Losers or America. Thank you very much. [And here's another...] From: fwheel@amoco.com Date: Mon, 18 Aug 97 13:50:30 -0500 Subject: PLA harrassment via kracked.com Dear Mr. McCrary, This is to inform you of a problem with a group of hackers / phreakers sending spam posts, and obscene posts to a web discussion forum at: http://www.bouldernews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?Ramsey The problem started several months ago, but has escalated in the last few weeks. It is to the point now where no regular Boulder News posters can use the forum. Here is an exerpt from a "ZINE" on the Phone Losers of America web site run on kracked.com documenting their deliberate terrorization of this discussion forum run by the Boulder News: ["Exerpts" snipped out.] You may say that we can't prove who is posting these, but the webmaster at the Boulder News Forum has IP addresses and has verified that one of the main IP addresses of the obscene posts resolves to: bac@bright.net [I'm wondering how an IP address can resolve to a specific e-mail address.. Hmmmmm.. ] This is the email address of the leader of this hacker group, RedBoxChiliPepper, who I'm told you are very aware of. If there is any question as to whether or not this group is actually terrorizing the forum as they stated in their zine, please feel free to contact the webmaster of the Boulder News Forum. What can we do to ensure this problem on the Boulder News Forum goes away? They post links to their home page which runs under your domain. I am all for freedom of speech, and I could care less if these guys want to trade phreaker codes on their webpage. But when they deliberately attack an innocent group with the intent of terror, then it's time to stop them. Please respond and let me know what you intend to do about this problem, and I will forward your response to the Cyberangels who are also helping to stop this terrorist group. Sincerely, Mr. Ferris - Boulder News regular [RBCP had apparently set up a spam page on his old peak.org account which BNF regulars noticed at once. Here is a letter of warning from peak.org's sysadm along with the actual letter that was sent to peak.org, informing them about PLA's evil doings. ] To: bueno@peak.org Subject: Appropriate Use Policy violation Cc: techsupport@peak.org Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 15:57:08 -0700 From: (John Sechrest) Hello, We have been told about your web pages being used to post noise messages. This is a clear violation of our policies statement. Please remove this page. This type of noise on the network is inappropriate for building a successful network. Please clean up this process, so we don't have to do further actions. ------- Forwarded Message Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 18:45:28 -0400 Subject: Abuse by one of your members From: JHutch5121@aol.com To: webgroup@peak.org Dear sirs, You are currently hosting a web page at http://www.peak.org/~bueno registered to a Mike Ockurts. This page contains code, when the icon is clicked, to force a post to a web discussion board hosted by the Boulder News. Its purpose is to harass and inundate the Boulder News discussion forum by having innocent web surfers click on the link. This tactic has been used before by one or individuals who call themselves the PLA (Phone Losers of America) to harass the BN Forum. They have put up similar pages on other servers, which were removed by the hosting ISP's when informed. It is their way to get around the BN's limitations on posting based on source IP address, a restriction put in place to address previous attacks on the BN Forum by the PLA. I request that PEAK, inc. remove this page, and ensure the user does not create another such page. The page is obviously in violation of the Policy Statement your web site has regarding appropriate use. Thank You Jerold Hutchinson jhutch5121@aol.com ------- End of Forwarded Message [Here's yet another pathetic attempt by BNF regulars to take down the PLA. The PLA redesigned their web pages and did a parody of USA Today's home page, using their logo and their weather maps. One of the BNF regulars immediately e-mailed USA Today and this is the result. ] Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 12:36:00 -0400 From: "Young, Allegra" Subject: USA TODAY I am the marketing manager for USA TODAY Online and am responsible for policing online use of the USA TODAY logo. Your page, http://www.phonelosers.org/, uses the USA TODAY logo and weather map without our permission. Please immediately remove both elements from this screen. If these elements are still online on Monday, October 27, we will send this notice to our legal department. Thank you in advance for your cooperation. Sincerely, Allegra Young Marketing Manager USA TODAY Online [After asking if they'd found the parody themselves or if someone had directed them to it, they responded, "Actually someone emailed us about it or else we would have probably never known." PLA immediately removed the weather map from their page and altered the USA Today logo so it looked a little different. And here's one of the funnier letters which was sent to kracked.com after the closing of BNF. ] ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 06:22:31 PST From: "Mrs. Doubtfire" To: abuse@kracked.com Subject: PLA shuts down our web board Hello: Well, the PLA has succeeded in shutting down the Boulder News Forums. Like most on-line chats and discussions, no one was making any money on this. It was just a place for people to talk. It finally became too costly for them to fight the moronic teens with nothing to do. the moronic teens who are now gloating about it on a discussion board supported by you. You have continued to support the PLA even thought you knew they were spewing obscene, racist and anti semitic garbage in an effort to close down other people's right to free speech. Oh, I know, not every one who participated in the trashing was a "member" - I know they are not that organized. But they (you) are the ones with the web board with the URL and instructions how to spam it. I fully support the right of people to put up websites about ememas and sophmoric (high school sophmoric) idiocies about Christianity. But I guess you feel stuff that straight old ladies are interested in is ok to bash and destroy. You are just such a slime. I was actually going to try to fight you, but I went and looked at the sites you are supporting, and I think I like it better that you are functioning and actually have to talk to the enema guy. Do you take a shower after you touch his checks (cheeks)? Do you think he really does eat his own crap? It really made me happy to look at the scab butts you are supporting, and thinking about what it must be like to have Colleen Card and enema man as your customers. I bet it really does make you feel cool and casual. [Yep, you heard it straight from Mrs. Doubtfire herself - we're all a bunch of scab butts. ] ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿ ³ THE NIGHT OF RELEASE: ³ ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ [By finding the page on PLA's site that shows URL references clicked on to get to the PLA page (did that make sense?) we were able to find many threads on the Joshua forum where they were still talking about us. Here is a portion of the conversations on J-7 happening as this issue was released. ] Subject: phone LOSERS salute Digerati for ugliness Name: Murphy Time/Date: 13:20:49 1/01/98 Message: repost from the pla bulletin board OPIC - LOL at The Ramsey Freaks Again - 12/31/97 17:15:04 EST FROM - - LOL... phanop and Cmdr. Hunnybear (who is this guy anyway?) freaked Murphy and her husband out so bad with all their spam that they have now made it a password only forum!!! According to what I just saw on that Joshua 7 thing they have to send email to jameson to gain entrance to their new place :) LOL, Teri Helzer, the infamous COLady/Denver is now posting as Digerati flaming poor jameson all to Hell. I think I may finally break down and register for Joshua-7 Board and show them how to really flame. Haven't heard from old Teri since she thought she'd try getting me fired and stuff. LOL Teri Helzer's World /end copy From "Teri Helzer's World" there's a link to Joshua-7. Below is a link to the bulletin board where this is posted. We ARE moving WEbbSleuths so the URL will change. Those of you who post there will need to contact jameson for the new url. Happy New Year & may this year bring a resolution to this case. To Health & Happiness in 1998! Subject: Murphy: What? Name: Curious Time/Date: 13:43:25 1/01/98 Message: I don't understand what you are trying to say, Murphy. Please elaborate. Curious Subject: Forum Name: jameson Time/Date: 15:20:30 1/01/98 Message: The Mountain Forum was intended as an open forum. Unfortunately it has been the target of "attacks" by troublemakers. We are now limiting access to the group - starting over. A dozen people have been invited to join. Several had stopped posting on the open forums to escape the hateful and vulgar posts. We hope to get them active again. They will bring many views to the case. It may take a month, and we may always be a small group, but it WILL be there. Hate to risk losing any good posters, but anyone who visits the forums will understand why we are doing this. You must e-mail ME at this point to register. If we recognize your name and e-mail, there is no problem. But if we do not . . .here is the deal... Most post on a registration forum, here, CNN, wherever... Tell us the nick you use. We will want to be able to see 5 older posts in the forum. (Before 1/1/98) If you appear to be a serious poster and not a flamer, if the e-mail attached to that name matches the one here, I will send you the codes. If the e-mail there does NOT match the one you e-mail your registration request with, we will have you post something special to verify that YOU are that poster - see, no one else can use that hat, right? I know it is a pain, BUT it is easier than cleaning up the board after a night of pranksters destroying it. Unfortunate that it has to be done this way - a bother really - But the end result will be worth it, IMO. Subject: Yikes Name: HickoryNuts Time/Date: 18:39:56 1/01/98 Message: Sounds to me something like the KKK, you guys have hoods? Ooops, forgot, the cobra comes equipped with it's own natural hood! How many forums have you run this game on jam? The "invited" gameplaying left most of us in highschool. Seems to me we better roll out that log. Yo, Spencer????? Subject: A bloody coup? Name: Hugh Briss Time/Date: 17:29:25 1/01/98 Message: Recently jameson posted the following: REPOST ****** Subject: WRONG! Name: jameson Time/Date: 01:34:23 12/28/97 Message: The Graphire is not MY forum - just a place where there was little traffic and the owner said - hey - use it - it is THERE! You got censored. You deserve it. ****** So, jameson, four days ago, it was not your forum, and now it is? What gives? Subject: SECRETS Name: Tia Time/Date: 16:09:14 1/01/98 Message: Jameson, This is genie2...am I excluded from this one also...or do I get a chance to meet with the selected FEW and exchange intelligent ideas on this case??? Please let me know..I don't want to embarrass myself by BEGGING!!!!!! I wonder what a FEW can discuss that would be any more helpful than a LOT????? Subject: To Genie Name: Alexander Time/Date: 17:39:12 1/01/98 Message: Genie, I have heard you were on the original dead list. Is that correct? If you were, you can kiss off ever getting into jamman's newest secret forum. No Heaven and no Mountain forums for dead people! Nope! Subject: Jams: How 'bout J-7 Name: Curious Time/Date: 15:32:17 1/01/98 Message: I'm just curious, jameson. Have you ever suggested to the posters at Mountain that they might broaden their perspective of the JBR case by visiting the Joshua-7 Forum? just Curious Subject: Murphy you freak Name: BloodyMary Time/Date: 16:39:53 1/01/98 Message: Geez Murphy, talk about a leading post. Come on Murphy you left out one important part to the post your copied and pasted above from the PLA board. It was written by your long lost friend Tannest. Tannest showed many people on the net some of the emails and dcc's that you had sent her in the past (alittle paranoid behavior oozing out of every word may I add). Your reputation and bizarre behavior in the past has not been forgotten. Do not come here and put on that saint act with us because we all know you better. Your reputation proceeds you. One more point Murphy, the link back to J7 is not from a Teri Helzer web page, but just a link connecting the PLA board to J7 (with an ISP from "SmileyFace.Com" you would think their users were more computer savvy!). Here is a thought, You and your friend Jameson go to your mountain and remain exclusive forever! It was not that long ago that you publicly accused Jameson of "sleuthing" you. LOL! Hardy har har! Funny how birds of a feather truly flock together. Subject: Mtn Owls go WHO WHO WHO Name: Alexander Time/Date: 16:54:18 1/01/98 Message: I hear that paramoid mountain owls sit in the trees and go WHO WHO WHO WHO... Bloody Mary, you are certainly correct about Murphy's past association with Tannest, and her paranoid behavior relating to jameson's attempt to provide names to the FBI. How funny. I had forgotten all about Murphy and Tannest. Maybe Murphy should check the IP address of the posters that are posting on jameson's forum to see who is trashing it. Maybe jams can call the FBI again. What was her name..the FBI agent that took his call that day? LOL Since Murphy and jamman have singled out Digerati for their first flames of the new year, does that mean that Digerati has been moved up on the list of the dead to a higher and more honored position? I am jealous, Dig!! Oh, and one last note to jameson...you have not locked a back door into your forum, and I suggest you lock and baricade it before the PLA finds it. Your password file is easily accessed also. LOL ta ta Subject: the back door.. Name: Dianne E. Time/Date: 17:12:01 1/01/98 Message: ..can always swing open and Jams has to keep closing it, will be interesting to see how much security software he is now downloading to shore up. At least the PLA will have a good target, time to let up on the quilting group:) Subject: The quilting group should Name: Alexander Time/Date: 17:18:22 1/01/98 Message: The ladies in the quilting group should send jamman a quilt to thank him for diverting the PLA attention to his forum and giving those poor ladies a break from the PLA harassment. You are right about the security software, DianeE...ROFLMAO. Perhaps the FBI can assist jamman with his security hole. I know they just love to hear from him weekly.... Subject: Wanted: New Angel Clones for Murphy/Jameson Mountain Name: uknowus Time/Date: 17:54:26 1/01/98 Message: Jameson and Murphy alone on a mountain. Now there’s a frightening thought. Two egomaniacs fighting for control. I wonder who will hold the keys to the doors. Could it be that Jameson became envious watching the SkyDog become SkyGOD in heaven and wanted his own little hellhole to call rule? Jameson and Murphy love a good following. I can see it now. They will have their Rules posted. Rule #1: Post as I say. Not as I do. Bloody, we all know what Murphy and Jameson are made of. Thanks for reminding us of the ugly past of Murphy. And I do mean Ugly. Genie, Be proud you are not one a clone. They deserve each other. You do realize, exclusive clubs cannot be that fulfilling. Obviously they are not getting their daily regimen of intelligence. You can still see Questioner or Mapek throwing us a crumb or two by posting here. SkyDog must be bitching about his health again. Must be hell to be King. And Boring! Subject: Has anyone noticed... Name: Hugh Briss Time/Date: 17:38:36 1/01/98 Message: that everywhere jameson goes, the forums close behind him. Jameson, I beg you, stay off Joshua-7. Subject: Whoa Name: Eldorado Time/Date: 17:42:10 1/01/98 Message: Hugh, you are correct about forums closing with jameson's presence. WOW, never thought of that before. Kind of like typhoid jameson. Subject: Applications Accepted Here: Name: BloodyMary Time/Date: 18:25:03 1/01/98 Message: Jameson and Murphy are demanding that all posters wishing to gain access into their private domain MUST fit the criteria. Now remember all who are just dying to get it, it is imperative that you must post a minimum of 5 serious posts to a reputable domain before your application will be even considered for review. Once the application is received, references will be researched PRIOR to your 3 part interview phase (feel free to use me as a reference). Now be patient. Murphy and Jameson know what they are doing and remember the welfare of an entire mountain is at snake, er rather, stake here. Just some key words and phrases to remember for your interview, well that is IF you make it that far (*wink).... Mention that you are a big fan of the serpent (doesn’t matter if it is a garden snake or an anaconda snake), ICQ fan (Murph will just LOVE that!), roasted hickory nuts are your favorite, oh and of course, you have to be an “Ungrateful” Dead Fan (Jammy is a big Dead fan! Jerry “Jameson” Garcia is his little pet name around the web). Best of luck to you and do let us know if you made it to the Big Smiley Face Mountain in the Sky! Subject: Hey guys Name: Xanadu Time/Date: 18:46:10 1/01/98 Message: I remember whem jameson called the F.B.I.(. in honor of Patsy)and the agent he talked to names was .......Jameson! That's what he said! I also remember when jameson was guarding the IRC channel and interviewing Rosee with Murphy right there, also trying to get in.He never let them in. Man the battle they fought. Such strange bedfellows they are now. Just goes to show what desperation will do. [Ah, and just to bring you up to speed - phanop and Cmdr. Hunnybear actually did bring the smiley-face board down to it's knees several times until they finally completely shut it out to the public and put a password on the entire thing. Two days later (today) a massive attack occurred on PLA's webboard in which some hillbilly from Georgia began to spam the General Forum with 20 pages of text from some law site, over and over and over. This was taken care of by the end of the night (so we think anyway) when a domain ban was put on acme-brain.com (the offending host). Like I mentioned before, this will probably be the last issue of BNF and it's been a hoot. Maybe in a year or so I'll write a follow-up issue just to let anyone who cares know what the final outcome of everything was. Thanks for reading! ] ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿ ³ IMPORTANT URLS TO REMEMBER: ³ ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ http://vulgar.net/~british/frenzy/frenzy.html - Boulder News Frenzy - The official frenzy site which is updated every few months. http://members.tripod.com/~bnf_pla/index.html - Boulder News Frenzy - The original Frenzy site but not nearly as updated as the current site. http://www.smiley-face.com/mountain/board.html - The WebbSleuth Forum for discussing the JBR murder. Jameson's current hangout. Unfortunately, this forum went Password Only just a day before this issue was released. http://members.tripod.com/~jamesonTimeLine/ - Jameson's Timeline Page - Facts and Theory in the Ramsey Case as seen through the eyes of an insane man/woman known as Jameson. http://frontpage.ican.net/~lindaws/ - LindaWS's page (aka 31373) Look at soothing artwork and sign the guestbook - again and again and again... http://jonbenetramsey.com/ - Yet another web discussion board for JBR fans. http://www.ramseyfamily.com/ - Messages from the Ramsey Family (in their defense, of course.) http://www.joshua-7.com/mrsbrady/ - Mrs. Brady's rants. A big resource for dead child stalkers and other's interested in the case. http://www.joshua-7.tierranet.com/cgi-bin/dcforum97/dcboard97.cgi - The Joshua-7 forum, now a hangout for alot of the old BNFers. http://www.jonbenet.com/ This one has absolutely nothing to do with JonBenet. My guess is that they're trying to cash in on the JBR name to promote their site. http://www.phonelosers.org/FruitWare/ Phone Losers of America's Web Board. Usually alot of morons like us on here, bragging about how we crashed another JBR board. Be on the lookout for lots of revenge-spam here! R.I.P. J.B.R.