ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿ ³ ISSUE 004 - BOULDER NEWS FRENZY - ISSUE 004 ³ ³ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄij ³ Released on August 31st, 1997 ³ ³ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄij ³ The publishers of this newsletter take no responsibility for the use of ³ ³ any information printed and do not encourage others to bother the BNF. ³ ³ This is intended to document the events on the BNF only, nothing more. ³ ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄhttp://www.bouldernews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?RamseyÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ Okay, I'll be honest. The whole Ramsey thing is really getting quite boring and most of the people involved are talking about moving on to better things. I mean really, it's been like nine months now and the whole thing is getting just slightly repetative. We steal hats, it causes a commotion, the original hat steps in and and pleads for everyone to ignore the hat stealer because it isn't him/her, they do web searches for PLA, they follow links, they post all the information they find and claim that they're detectives, everyone gets bored with it all, it dies down and a week later the whole process starts over again. My harddrive is overfilled with old Ramsey posts that I've yet to publish, though, so I anticipate about two more issues of BNF before we fold. The Ramsey forum is getting close to being back to normal and currently only about every 4th post is somehow related to the PLA which is pretty damn good. In fact, it looks as though the PLA posts on there now are being done only by the forum regulars. It's just like Spessa once said - they need us. We're as entertaining to them as they are to us. None of them will ever forget us or the PLA, even though "the PLA" wasn't even involved in this whole mess. This issue will start out with some posts that started popping up on the Boulder News Forum's Opinion board about the Ramsey case. See, the regular BNFers could no longer hold a decent conversation in the Ramsey forum, so they all tried to secretly migrate to a different forum only to find that the regulars in THAT forum didn't want them there talking about dead little girls. So that didn't last too long. -------------------------------------------------------- please do not use this area to dwell on your sickness dealing with dead children Return to the Opinion forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: *-* E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday August 19, 1997 go back to you little cells and eat you snacks PLA PROTECTS RAPISTS OF CHILDREN Return to the Opinion forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: ******** E-mail: *********** Location: Posted on: Monday August 18, 1997 You better wonder if your children will be the next rape victims of the sickos that you accept money to protect! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: ????????? E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday August 19, 1997 What the heck does that post mean? It is totally incomprehensible to me. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Interpreter E-mail: Location: Posted on: Tuesday August 19, 1997 It means the PLA work for the Ramsey Spin Team. Probably they do, whether they get paid or not. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: he gave us some stuff --so what E-mail: Location: somewhere in oregon Posted on: Tuesday August 19, 1997 he is a hard guy to figure out,thats all I am going to say. -------------------------------------------------------- World-View of the People Who Are Trashing the Ramsey Forum Return to the Opinion forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: V E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997 Apologies to all for discussing JBR on this forum. Ordinarily we discuss the issue on the Ramsey forum, but over the last weekend it's been completely trashed by hackers. These hackers have been around for months, steadily escalating their efforts to make the forum unusable. Lately, they've been adding scores of garbage threads, bumping all of the real discussion threads down and into the archives. For the record, here's what we're dealing with: what follows is an essay by one of the founders of the hacker group, and it pretty much sums up their philosophy of life. (Incidentally, some of the tricks they've pulled on the Ramsey forum were straight out of the instructions below, so, yes, they really do these kinds of things). Ruining Someone's Life Written by RedBoxChiliPepper on August 9, 1992 Last Revision on October 23, 1994 [This person posted the entire PLA article on revenge here which I've edited out. And they say that WE'RE the spammers? ] -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: JBR fugitive E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997 Thanks V. I'm really concerned about what has happened here. Basically, anyone, even really brainless people, can stop public opinion from being expressed anywhere on the internet. The fact that these "hackers" are essentially maladjusted teenagers and that the JBR forum is hardly of earthshaking importance is not the point. There really is a freedom of speech issure here. ISP's like Kracked.com actually support these people in the NAME of free speech. Nothing is being done to stop them. Next time will it be a political forum? Or a forum of doctors discussing medical issues? Will political tricksters hire people to trash forums belonging to the other party? The webmaster at BNF has tried, but I'm sure the BN resources for this are small. These people pick on small forums with limited resources. Technically, it's child's play to do what these trashers they have done. It's on the same level as an obscene phone call, or a swastika on a wall. I don't really care about the JBR case anymore. In fact, I'm kind of bored with it. But I refuse to let my freedom to express myself on the internet be taken away. And this problem can be solved easily. BNF can tell where the posts are coming from. They can contact the ISP's of the people doing this. They can show the ISPs the evidence of what has been done. And those ISP's can apply the same standard to this they would to a member selling child porn. Taking away our freedon of speech is the ultimate porn. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: jeff E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997 stick a knife up your asses then go waddle back to your ramsey forum and complain how your free speech was pissed on and your butt hurts. hhahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa we shall overwhelm -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: the wolf E-mail: desparation usa Location: right on top of you , jeff.. Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997 jeff....have a lot of fun, cause i know who you are...and i'm going to get you....i'm smarter and faster than you....what goes around comes around... -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: V E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997 Relatedly: There were a number of posts over the weekend of names, addresses, and phone numbers which ostensibly belonged to the hackers, their ISPs, etc. Well, I didn't check these out, but based on RedBox's above-stated principles, it sounds pretty likely that most of these names and addresses, etc. probably belonged to people who the hackers wanted to harass. Luring BNF people into doing the harassing for them would fit right into their way of doing things. A twofer. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: V E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997 They also rather cleverly got around a modification in the BN software which prevented anyone from adding more than one thread per hour. They put an icon on their own web page which, when clicked, executed a CGI script which created a new thread on the Ramsey forum (in the name of the person who clicked on it, not their own name). This led to the creation of scores of garbage threads, shutting down the forum again. These people thrive on misdirection. Be very careful about clicking on anything on their web page, or about believing any information on the Ramsey forum that purports to identify who the hackers really are. They'll be happy to send you in the wrong direction. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: wolf killa E-mail: Location: some shack you momma wanted to screw in Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997 fuck you little wolfy I'm laying in the cut laying in the cut bout to shoot me a mutt fuck you white devils!! -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: I agree E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997 And if you read the material in V's first post you can see that they really are indredibly tedious people. I would like to know what BNF's intentions are. Some of us have worked very hard to try to keep the forum open. Is this a waste of time? Has BNF given up? The heavy spamming began again today during business hours. Is BNF allowing itself to be shut down by a bunch of not too bright teen agers? Will other forums soon be shut down too? Will your paper be allowed to published? Is this really any different than if someone threw a sabot into your printing presses? -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: wolf E-mail: Location: sucking off the staff here at the BNF Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997 sorry meant to post some stuff I have been thinking about but my mouth has been busy :) I am smarter and faster and badder then you blah blah blah threat this threat that -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: wolf loves elf watch E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997 we have super gulp colons full of sludge we are sick motherfuckers like your daddy -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Wolf----- E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997 You're not a wolf, you're a pussycat. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: RAMESY SUCK DOG E-mail: Location: Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997 HELLO FUCK YOU BILL CLINTON --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Boulder Daily Camera/Boulder News Will Do NOTHING Return to the Opinion forum index page -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Colorado Person E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday August 21, 1997 I called the The Boulder Daily Camera since they monitor this site, and was told it is an open forum and there is NOTHING they will do to stop this nonsense/sabotage. Feel free to call them and let them know how you feel. (303)473-1202. I wonder how much they get paid from advertisers for each hit on this site. Revenues must be up thanks to the PLA jerkoffs. -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Opinion E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday August 21, 1997 They don't monitor the site. If they did they might notice the obscenities and do something about it. They think it is a kids' war that is beneath their dignity to investigate. They are ignoring all complaints. What did they do to change the site after the first complaints? Added ISP numbers. Who did that help? No one posted anymore because the PLA were sitting there writing down our numbers. Then that was taken off. One post per hour was started. Who did that help? The PLA figured out how to post at the speed of light. How are they doing it? This has been brought to the attention of the Boulder News and there has been no response except a one-time deletion of the long titled threads and a change in thread title so it can't be long. Dan deletes offensive posts from his board so people stop trying. The Boulder News has no employee who cares to do that. They act like it is funny and unimportant. I agree, but people are still posting here. If you would ALL make an exodus to Dan's forum we could all stop coming here. The PLA could try all they wanted but Dan would delete their posts. We could get back to normal. [Dan's Forum is another Ramsey discussion board run by joshua-7.com where some of the BNF regulars were trying to get everyone to move to so they could escape the harassment. ] -------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: turbowolf1 E-mail: Location: Posted on: Thursday August 21, 1997 I love comming here and learning about the little girls panties and the amount of urine at the scene I suck off the webmaster here and that gets me everywhere fuck you if you can not be the butt of our jokes [Now what follows below are a few posts from the "new" ramsey discussion board at joshua-7.com. You'll notice that the posts are in a totally different format than is used on the BNF. ] Following message was posted by 31337 on 8/22/97 at 02:17:20: i'm currently working on the investigation of the PLA and their demise. Any ideas? Linda Following response was posted by Helping Hand to Linda on 8/22/97 at 03:05:56. The subject of this response is "downfall of the PLA?". Contact the PLO. Following response was posted by Or... on 8/22/97 at 03:07:56. The subject of this response is "downfall of the PLA?". ...contact the FBI, NATO, NAFTA, the CIA, the ATF, the ACLU, USA, um...who am I forgetting here... Following response was posted by 31338 on 8/22/97 at 03:13:37. The subject of this response is "downfall of the PLA?". How bout just stopping? It is not a game. Let them be and you find something else to do. YOU are playing tit for tat......Grow up and give it up. Following response was posted by Helping hand for OR on 8/22/97 at 03:33:16. The subject of this response is "downfall of the PLA?". Umm... NASA., the AMA, "The Mob", NAACP, AFLCIO, UPS, and maybe.... "Alpo"....? Does this help? Following response was posted by Not PLA on 8/22/97 at 03:37:42. The subject of this response is "downfall of the PLA?". Linda or whoever..GIVE IT UP Following response was posted by I've Got It!!!!!!!! on 8/22/97 at 03:53:11. The subject of this response is "downfall of the PLA?". The S.L.O., you know! Patty Hearst!!!!! Following response was posted by Sniff..Sniff.. you smell that? on 8/22/97. The subject of this response is "downfall of the PLA?". Anyone else smell dog doo-doo? Subject: You will be followed Following message was posted by Wartally on 8/21/97 at 21:55:16: Do you think we can't follow you wherever you go? THINK AGAIN Following response was posted by desaix on 8/21/97 at 22:44:32. The subject of this response is "You will be followed". I'm thinkin', I'm thinkin', just gimme a minute here!..Well, my dog follows me around..yeah..I guess you could follow me around too if ya' want! posted by Ray to Aussie on 8/22/97 at 00:47:23. While I am not an expert in the field, I would suggest a root canal on the right upper canine, with a cap to follow. (G) posted by Geno on 8/22/97 at 00:57:09. Who's being followed? and Why? posted by Teague to Ray on 8/22/97 at 01:12:29. Ray, is that canine you refer to the one that's following Desaix? Oh, I feel like Lacey tonight. Somebody please stop me. We need some new hard news to break, soon. posted by Ray to Teague on 8/22/97 at 01:17:54. The If you look at his uh... smile, you will know right away, Teague. If that gives you trouble, he will be the one who yells ouch each time he bites someone, just as loud as the person he bites. (G) posted by LOL at Wartally on 8/22/97 at 01:23:35. Oh, look at the little baby cry because he can't pick on us anymore. WAH!!!!! Try it here and it's deleted. :P posted by desaix to Teague on 8/22/97 at 01:28:00. Hard news, Teague? I've got your hard news right here. No sooner did I let wartally tag along behind me than he runs off! Can't find him anywhere! I've whistled, I've called and I have to tell you I'm worried sick! Do you think he's lost? Shall I call the pound? [wartally was the name of a page that Spessa had set up as a daily log of BNF happenings. ] posted by allie on 8/22/97 at 02:02:47. Well, I would call him for you but I do get embarrassed hollering "here Wartally, Here Wartally, come and get your kibbles and bits" posted by first timer aka Ren on 8/22/97 at I would just like to assure everyone that I, first timer (aka Ren the Chihuahua), am not the keeper of my brother dog, Wartally, and bear no responsibility for his philandering. He may run off, but I prefer to continue to nip and yap at the ankles of the regular posters on this forum. posted by Nina to Aussie on 8/22/97 at 02:08:41. Hilarious! I just saw that warthog wally or whatever on the BN forum, what an idjit! I wonder though, about the toothy photo, warthog wally is sure to have many black teeth among the few greyish ones! LOL. Good on yer gal! posted by desaix on 8/22/97 at 02:13:01. Alright, that's it! Soon as Wartally starts thinking of his kibble bowl, he'll be back and then I'm gonna have him neutered! They make much better pets when you have them fixed! Oh, I *never* should have let him off his leash (sob)... posted by Nina to Desaix (sp) on 8/22/97 Could it be because of the chihuaha? Let's hope he wallythingy, will run away and become an adult? posted by MIKE on 8/22/97 at 02:19:37. Thanks Wartally; I thought I was being followed. I told all fy friends an they thought I was crazy! now I don't have to go see the nice doctors at that nice hospital like place. Anybody else out there feel better now that Wartally has set our minds at ease? posted by Teague to Desaix and first timer 8/22/97 at 02:30:13. Not to worry, des. Not only can I handle those pesky little punctuation marks, but I have choke collars and pinch collars and know how to use them. We'll have a lesson when you find that rogue. I can make large, vicious dogs quake in their little paw tracks. First timer, we'll go easy on you, you little runt dog! (G) posted by Shantia on 8/22/97 at 02:46:12. Here she is again http://members.tripod.com/~bigbadvoodoolady/linda.gif Shantia wants you to visit his/her homepage titled SheRA: Queen of VooDoo. posted by desaix to Teague on 8/22/97 at 03:05:08. Good, because I don't want him to embarrass me if the Empress lets me bring him to the salon. Thanks, Teague. Subject: Altert :Pla is linking to this forum again from BNF posted by David Will to Dan on 8/23/97 at 17:33:59: Just a note of warning, and apologies: There are threads at the BNF started by the PLA that say all the dirt on the PLA can be found at this address.There are multiple threads over there about this, so the tykes are up and about. I believe that is what is generating the GO away BNF threads here: if someone clicks on one at BNF, then a new thread apparently pops up here saying go away. posted by allie on 8/23/97 at 18:10:07. Well, aren't the kidos cute? NOT!! You have to feel sorry for any young kid with nothing better to do. No friends to play with. No dates for the entire weekend.Just hunched up all alone trying to attract attention of ANY kind. Let the babies play awhile, maybe someone will ttake pity on them and say Hi. posted by Incognito on 8/23/97 at 18:14:12. I think that when you view a thread here it is posting a new thread to the BNF. Also when you view a thread with a picture that is on their site, they are getting your IP address. You don't even have to post, just browse for this to happen. [Actually is what happened is the PLA set up another autoposting page that looked innocently like a child pornography disclaimer page. It said "you must be under the age of 18 to view child pornography so click here if you're under 18" and of course everyone would click the icon which didn't take them to a kiddie porn page, but took them to joshua-7.com with a message saying, "Your post has been added to the discussion!" Then several of the forum trashers sat in every pre-teen porn channel on IRC, automatically messaging everyone who joined with the URL...] Subject: Go away you stupid BNF Refugees. We don't want you here! posted by Concerned on 8/23/97 at 13:57:56: The last thing we need is for this forum to turn into the BNF. You can't even post there anymore. Let's not let that happen here. Sign a petition and get rid of the BNFers! posted by Aussie on 8/23/97 at 14:47:07. Hey come on concerned lets give *some* of these people a go. There *are* some decent ones among them. posted by Jay on 8/23/97 at 15:00:44. How unfriendly of you. We would welcome your input if the spammers were invading your space. We are all on the same path, by the way. We all seek justice for a little girl. posted by Teague to Jay on 8/23/97 at 16:49:31. Jay, my guess is that it *wasn't* a Joshua regular who posted this thread. Could be, I suppose, but more likely someone trying to stir up *more* trouble by pitting forum against forum. Of course you're welcome here. posted by David Will to Teague on 8/23/97 at 17:36:32. Over at BNF there are suddenly many threads that say go to this forum's address to find all the dirt on the PLA. My guess is that when someone clicks on that thread, it puts up the "go away..." thread here. posted by Teague to David Will on 8/23/97 at 17:40:05. David, I think you're right--exactly what I was trying to tell Jay in my post above. They've done this before. I think--thankfully for all of us, refugees included--that David and Dan are on top of things. posted by David on 8/23/97 at 18:00:17. Concerned is a liar...do not listen to it. In fact, do not reply to concerned, LindaWS, 31373...I need to check for more info. posted by Belle to Dan and David on 8/23/97 at 18:03:53. My heroes. Thank you. posted by allie on 8/23/97 at 18:05:33. That rude post is not from anybody I've posted with. Tell concerned to leave if he/she/it does not like the company here. I do! Think it might be one of the troublemakers with nothing to do this weekend. posted by Geno on 8/23/97 at 21:49:18. "Altert :Pla is linking to this forum again from BNF". David, I think it is a thread here that is creating the new thread titles over at BNF. Can you look at the BNF topic threads and check? Sorry to be a bother, but what helps one helps the other, doesn't it? posted by David on 8/23/97 at 21:52 I know that is creating a thread in this forum is creating something at BNF but I'm not sure how they hack it...But at least we're not getting anymore new threads...I wonder how long that will last... posted by just me on 8/23/97 at 22:26:48. They have a page set up somewhere known only to them where they can click on a link and it starts a new thread here or on BNF. They used to publicize this page on BNF asking everyone to click on the links so whenever people visited and clicked a new thread was started (on the BNF). Well after a BNF person caught on the page was taken down (it was on tripod). Recently they have said they have a new page up with the same idea, but they aren't telling where it is. They are visiting the page and clicking the links themselves instead of having unknowing people do it. So my guess is they have it set up to create new threads not just on BNF but here as well. Of course, I could be wrong but I'm just going on what they said at the BNF. I don't think they are capable of hacking into any systems. I mean, wouldn't they have to physically put (upload) a script on this site or Boulder News? I don't think they have the access to do that. But who knows? posted by David on 8/23/97 at 22:29:38. I'm not sure...but for now, I am able to block all of their new posts...and I ain't disclosing what I had to do to block them off. But we'll see, at least we're winning the battle. Let these loser spend next few days trying to figure out what I did... posted by just me on 8/23/97 at 22:31:33. P.S. They aren't hackers. Someone called the hackers on the BNF and they got all in a huff. They even posted it on one of their web pages emphatically stating they aren't. Although they may have friends who are hackers who are helping them or it may be a different group entirely. Not that it matters anyway, right? :) posted by David to Mel on 8/23/97 at 21:39:22. Why bother when you can block them off competely...this is a simple fix so they may comeback at it again...but for now, it's effectively blocking them off... posted by David Will to David THE GREAT! on 8/23/97 You and Dan are tremendous! I applaud your tenacity in the face of whatever we want to call what's been happening here! I still wonder about the "repost from data" I get everytime I go to post on this forum, it only started a few days ago, and maybe you answered it and I missed with all the "interesting" threads? I just click cancel when it pops up, but I am curious. However, if you wish to go grab a large, cool drink right now and kick back and relax, more power to you! posted by David to David Will on 8/23/97 at 21:50:11. I think I know what's causing it but I'm not too sure...it has to do with what the hacker(s) did... posted by Nina on 8/23/97 at 22:23:32. I heard you were hit bad with the same wrecking team. I admire you making any and all efforts to keep this forum up. It's a credit to you guys, how well you are handling all this. When will it end. Thankyou. posted by Just so you know on 8/23/97 at 22:53:36. On one of their web sites they have a detailed narrative of how they shut down a Christian bulletin board in 1995, complete with posted letters and dialogue. Once they succeed in making people fed up enough to shut down a forum, their work is done, they are happy, and they move on to something else. They are frustrated that shutting down this and the BNF has not been that easy, and in spite of themselves they seem to be fascinated by the subject matter and the people here. Last week they posted really bad "poetry" full of their nihilistic philosophies. Their whole point is, whatever we do - retaliate, block, or ignore - they continue laughing. They get bored for weeks at a time but something on August 9th triggered a major attack which has lasted longer than usual. It used to be weekends only. It used to be BNF only. They are obsessed now so there are only three choices for regular posters. 1) ignore them and post around them when possible; 2) give up the forums; 3) admit they are part of the forum world - reply to them as you see fit, since they so enjoy the subject matter and seem to want to be educated in spite of themselves. Just my opinion after observing their warfare for 2 weeks. posted by Just looked again on 8/23/97 at 23:41:14. If what you say is true, that they like the subject, why are they deleting every thread's posts? I guess it's part of their "logic" .LOL. Just looked and the thread titles are the same, number of posts appear the same, but when you go to the thread all have been removed. Crazy, are these some kind of fascists? It could be! I don't think I'll post there again until it gets better. I hope we can find our frienly posters herabouts. And thanks Dan for having us. posted by Dave to Justlooked again... on 8/23/97 What do you mean all the threads are empty? Are you refering to the board at BNF? posted by just looked to David on 8/24/97 sorry, had to leave, yes the boulder forum, I had posted on two, exactly as I said above. then went back, threads and #posts on main forum, posts all deleted. Have not gone back but will now. Of course they will have moved off the end anyways. I'll check and get back IF they are off again. posted by me on 8/24/97 at 01:50:58. That just means the threads have been archived. If you click on a thread at the bottom of the board in the time it takes to load the pranksters may have already posted 2 or 3 new threads, knocking the one you are trying to look at into the archives. They are not capable of deleting posts, don't worry. posted by MIKE to Mel on 8/24/97 at 03:36:15. Mel, I don't know much (anything) about computers but I was speaking to a friend of mine at the University of New Brunswick (Canada) and she knows a lot about the kind of stuff that's going on with these hackers and all. She has a sister at Rice University who loves shutting these guy's down. Apparently, she can track them and do something that's called "snailing", whatever that means an some how lock onto them. My friend says she "snails" them then "cooks" them. I would assume this means she shuts them down. When I asked her she said we just do what we do. I guess "what they do" is against the law. Anyways, I'm interested in what happens over the next 24-36 hours. It should be interesting. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Okay, that's the end of the Joshua posts. They've died down alot so you probably won't see anymore of those. What follows below are old archives of the Ramsey board from as far back as February that were emailed to me for preservation here. I'll try to keep it as chronologically organized as possible, but you will notice a few jumps in the dates... FROM: The Ramsey Bunch DATE: Tuesday March 25, 1997 (A T.V. screen with a friendly, pale blue background divided into nine sections, Hollywood Squares style...Jameson's head appears in the top, central square and the Ramsey Bunch theme song begins.....) This is a story, Of a man named jameson. And a bunch of newbies that didn't have a clue (Rosebud, Jack Webb, and Artman's heads appear in the boxes along the left side of the screen. All are smiling sweetly) They were posting, Across the Internet. And just wanted to get the killer... (Teacher's head appears in the middle, bottom box) This is a story, Of a school librarian, Her hats are al-ie-ns from another world. (jay1, KamronKay, and Whisper appear in the boxes along the right side. jay1 looks hostile. KamronKay and Whisper are making eyes at each other) They too, want-ed to get jameson. His stupidity, just made them want to hurl. And then one day when this lady met this fella' they knew that it was much more than a hunch. That if they all worked together, They'd get the killer, but not in time for lunch. In tiimmme for lunch, in time for lunch...... (at this point Texas 1's head appears in the central square. She looks annoyed, and we can just make out that she is mouthing "Please give me a beer with a chai chaser" before we cut for commercial) You know the drill...same bat-time, same bat-channel, be there. FROM: OUTRAGED DATE: Friday March 28, 1997 You have really gone too far this time. This forum is about a child who died, not about jameson and his testicles!! FROM: Housewife Slut DATE: Friday March 28, 1997 I am so angry I could just spit! Jameson supposedly is leaving his wife for me, and now he is rolling around with marni. I will get even with that bastard if it takes the rest of my life. FROM: Denver DATE: Friday March 28, 1997 I forgive jameson. I was not around and so he took advantage of marni, who is so desperate for a man that she would ransack the Easter bunny's basket if she could. Jameson and I are an item in cyberspace, and we will soon be wed. FROM: Ocean Girl DATE: Friday March 28, 1997 And all this relates to JonBenet in what way? FROM: dolly LOCATION: midwest DATE: Friday March 28, 1997 This is supposed to be about a brutally murdered child. I find all of this so sad that you cannot see the seriousness of the situation and that your mentality so maligned. May God bless you in some way that will help all of you that are either acting demented or are demented. dolly [I love it - they come here daily to talk about a DEAD CHILD and they say that people who disrupt their conversation are demented...] FROM: To PLA EMAIL: @ LOCATION: Cyberspace DATE: Friday March 28, 1997 To PLA I suppose you are holy and without any "corruption"? Never had sex? What do you know is so "corrupt" about these "dykes"? Most child molesters are not women be them straight or gay. Please get your facts STRAIGHT as you so claim to be. FROM: *** EMAIL: *** LOCATION: *** DATE: Friday March 28, 1997 To : Rabboni and PLA, Here's to hoping, you get your Easter present early . A NEW SOUL ! FROM: to EMAIL: *** LOCATION: DATE: Friday March 28, 1997 Heaven's Gate, second run, are holding a place for you. Hurry up you might just get a seat on the spaceship. FROM: PLA Fan EMAIL: LOCATION: DATE: Friday March 28, 1997 No one from the PLA wrote the first post. The PLA thinks lesbians are sexy. That must have been a wannabe PLA member. FROM: clueless EMAIL: help LOCATION: DATE: Friday March 28, 1997 what does this have to do with JBR FROM: to: Clueless EMAIL: ************* LOCATION: from: sick of all this! DATE: Friday March 28, 1997 Nothing at all.....just a couple of weirdos spewing off at the mouth again.....Filthy mouth I might add...Really sick people out there...... well off to a different thread since this one is useless! [Yeah, you people are sick. I'll just hop off to ANOTHER thread to talk about dead children...] TITLE: Thread Awards FROM: Thread Watcher EMAIL: LOCATION: DATE: Sunday April 06, 1997 Most ambtitious: Mrs. Brady Most amiable: Texas 1 Most misunderstood: jameson Most well read: Insightful Most admired: Rosebud Funniest Poster: Dishwalla Most troubled: READER Most famous bed partner: Marcie Best parent: jameson Most Beautiful: Nicole Diver Most vile and crude: Teacher Biggest Asshole: Dminor FROM: Thread Awarder EMAIL: LOCATION: DATE: Sunday April 06, 1997 Best Brown-Noser: Peggy O. FROM: Dminor EMAIL: Debanderi@aolc.om LOCATION: SF DATE: Sunday April 06, 1997 Most Uninteresting: THread Watcher. Yawn. FROM: JudgeDred EMAIL: Planet.Hollywood.com LOCATION: DATE: Sunday April 27, 1997 Tannest rules ! It's you guys who suck. FROM: Well, EMAIL: I suppose I really LOCATION: ought not to tell you DATE: Sunday April 27, 1997 But, you really shouldn't be messing with the PLA R U New here...or WHAT? FROM: What and Who EMAIL: is a PLA ??? LOCATION: DATE: Sunday April 27, 1997 Whhy should we not mess with a PLA ? FROM: It's EMAIL: The LOCATION: PLA DATE: Sunday April 27, 1997 Leave your PC ON! FROM: RHCP EMAIL: LOCATION: DATE: Sunday April 27, 1997 Tannest SuckZ. PLA SuckZ. LogicBoard SuckZ. You Suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FROM: Old Timer EMAIL: LOCATION: DATE: Sunday April 27, 1997 I chatted with Tannest for hours last night. She's a delight and her friend Logic Box is a truly remarkable young man. Under any name you use Tannest I will always welcome your posts here and look forward to chatting with you again. I felt like I was at a party last night on irc, you two are undoubtedly a team and it was a joy to have you there. Please come back anytime. FROM: ??????? EMAIL: LOCATION: DATE: Sunday April 27, 1997 If Tannest and LogicBox are such great hackers, why can't they track the porno poster? FROM: Another Old Timer EMAIL: LOCATION: DATE: Sunday April 27, 1997 I, too, had the pleasure of chatting with Tannest on #jonbenet last night. It was most interesting to discover that she is one of our old timers that also changed hats. I found her knowledge of the Ramsey case far exceeding many of the posters here now. She has kept up with the case since January like many of us old regulars. It is such a shame that we all have to change hats due to the vile that is spewed on these threads. Tannest, I look forward to seeing you and LogicBox again on mirc. By the way, I figured out what your old hat was and you were always one of my favorites. I especially enjoyed you on mirc the first week or two that we moved to mirc. You found me lost in a room trying to find the right server and channel. LOL. FROM: KamronKay DATE: Thursday March 20, 1997 The thought of Needle carressing my genitals is so overwhelming. It almost pushes me over the border.